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Slipknot: Heretic Song

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by Terry Bezer
For every single Slipknot hater (And believe me I write with most of 'em) this one is well and truly for you. The heaviest rip-your-balls-off-and-ram-'em-down-your-throat noise you will hear this year, it really is that simple. Slipknot have come back and boy, does this make the first record sound like a Geri Haliwell cover or what!?

Unless you've been living in a cave off of the south coast of Outer Mongolia you will know Slipknot are about to unleash there second major label album, 'Iowa' and if this is any indication of where we are heading then holy shit are we in for a ride!!! From the five-second warning at the beginning of the track to the opening thirty seconds of pure 100% metal riffage this is madness at it's highest level. The intensity is at an all-time high amongst the Slipknot camp. This is Slpknot raging out at everyone who ever called 'em a boy-band and shitting down their throat, the verse is so fast it's hard to distinguish Corey's lyrics (Apart from when he declares himself an industry killer), but with its 'If you're 555, then I'm 666' chorus this is one to be screamed 'til your throat falls on the floor. It's like when you heard 'Surfacing' for the first time all over again (but if you times the guitars by ten!).

Well then, it's time for us to all wet our pants in excitment again and the wait 'til August 6th is gonna be unbareable. This is both 5 out of 5 and 666. Bring it on!

(The track can be downloaded at www.roadrunner.co.uk)

  • Slipknot 10 / 10

Outer Mongolia

It is impossible to be sitting in a cave on the south coast as Mongolia is landlocked. Pedantic? Me. But of course.

Slipknot - Heretic Song

Do we have to review this kinda shite? I know it's all about diversity but the day this becomes a largely nu-metal/skatepunk site is the day I leave.

go on call me an indie snob i'm past caring

Re: Slipknot - Heretic Song

hehe. well i was asking for it i guess.

i'm actually not an indie snob although youd be forgiven for getting that impression. theres a lot of music i love and it's certainly not all indie. there's not a lot of music that i hate with a passion. there's a lot of it which I can tolerate but tend to ignore out of habit. slipknot are one of the few bands that i actually actively hate and feel compelled to make a stand about. it's not so much the actual sound of their music that makes me hate them (although it sounds crap i've heard a lot worse)... it's just their whole attitude and what they say about the state of the music scene at the moment. read my other post if you want more explanation.

sounds like we'll have to agree to disagree or some such lame cliche. i can't really be bothered posting any further arguments anyway so goodnight. *shrugs*

you forget that ....

.. indie shits on metal.

incidentally, why is it ok to be a snob with any other musical genre but not indie ?
It's ok to listen exclusively to shockingly awful metal or abysmal hip-hop/rap but if u want credibility and to like indie stuff you gotta pretend that you like the kinda shit the NME stick on the frontcover.
You all slag the NME off but you're just as bad as you pretend to like utter wank like Missy Elliot just so you look so cool and alternative.
Steve La-fucking-macq does it loads too .... OO, look at me. i'm so open minded i listen to shit music aswell as good music.
slipknot are absolutely fucking awful, as is all american metal apart the Deftones and Incubus. Slipknot are also the worst live band ever (seen 'em twice).

subjective

Hate to sound like a pretentious fucker, but you can't just take your opinion as the sole opinion in the world. There are a lot of people out there who want to know and hear about all different forms of music. Yeah, the commerical bands get a backlash [see: Muse at the moment as a good example] but they've only become big because people like them, maybe their discovery has been meeeja affected, but they've still discovered the band, been to the gigs, bought the t-shirt, etc. These people want to hear what the bands are upto now, and while they're here they can find some new stuff, that's the whole point of what we're doin.

The day we start sticking to one style, is the day I closedown the domain name and start a McJob. Not that this pays a penny, yet.

If you don't like a band, you don't read it. If you don't know a band, you read and hear one opinion.

At the end of the day, we're all music lovers, we're all different and we hope our difference fits your difference.

*takes a bow and leaves*

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do you even have a taste in music? i'm serious. from the evidence of most of your reviews, you seem to just dabble in certain things like slipknot and missy elliot to try and prove something. god knows what, but you go on about slipknot being brutally heavy or something and you think this is a good thing. but if you heard a band like jenny piccolo or orchid for example i think you would probably dismiss it as being rubbish, because the irony, or showing of factor is less for these bands than it is for slipknot. tell me if i'm wrong, but thats what it seems like from here.

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Since when does someone reviewing one Slipknot single make DiS into a "largely nu-metal/skatepunk" site? You got it right the first time, it IS all about diversity. I wanna see the Slipknot reviews up there with the indie stuff. If this place was solely indie [and i like indie] i'd have gone already.

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did I say solely indie? nope. did i say it was a 'largely nu-metal' site.. nope. it just seems to be heading a lot more that way than it was previously and it's kinda depressing.

i agree, indie all the time would be boring. especially if you mean the whiny NME-hyped variety. I like a wide range of music but i'm afraid nu-metal just doesn't come into the equation anywhere. the whole apathetic ideology of it depresses me more than the music if anything.

anyway. diversity is good if it's a diversity of music that's either intelligent or challenging or sincere or at least original. slipknot are none of these in my humble opinion.

bands like slipknot just arent worth the attention. they're the voice of middle american middle class boredom. they have nothing to rebel against so they just trot out this derivating fake pointless 'angry' shite that's lapped up by this scarily increasing number of teenage nu-metal clones... they do all look the same.. that's the worst thing... the band would be good pantomime if they had a sense of irony but they don't... they take themselves so seriously... it's just a pointless ugly joke and the best thing you can do is just ignore it and hope it'll disappear up its own backside

sorry i know this is going to be deeply unpopular with certain people on here but some things just make you want to have a rant about the sorry state of the music scene and slipknot are one of these. goodnight now.

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"slipknot are none of these in my humble opinion."

exactly. your opinion. i agree with a lot of what you're saying but the fact is the site doesn't exist solely to satisfy your personal taste, it's a music site, it caters for people who like music fullstop. Whether slipknot is music or not is certainly up for debate, but you can't ask for them to be omitted from the site, it's just narrowminded.

personally i agree with ya about slipknot's attitude, the worship-and-adore-us-muthafuckers thang gets boring, but i like a good few of the tracks on their debut. s'a fun album, what can i say?

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I like Slipknot. But I really can't figure whether it is really all just an act, or if they really are American. It doesn't make a difference what they look like to me anyway. I let the music speak for itself. I like it. It's all very well constructed and there is some serious riffage.
I also like Limp Bizkit for sheer fun factor. It's like Destiny's Child and Westlife! They're all great. I have all the Westlife and Britney records.

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There is no fun factor with Westlife. They might as well be comatose, they're that languid.

conclusion

...isn't it better to subvert people from one genre to another? Nu-metal, at the moment being quite a hollow genre of music with a lil bit of what is meant to be sincere feeling down yer throat, I don't like it. I don't like a lot of music. I do however beleive people channel from one style to another. Like when I was 12 I went from blur and oasis to greenday to nofx and then to pixies to public enemy. Makes lil sense and it's all very American, but that's how it was. If people come here to read about Slippers then good for them, it's the start to finding less of the COOL and more of the REAL

Subtle subversion, it's the name of the game!

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again you seem to have the impression that i'd like to run the site with some fascist imposition of my personal tastes. nope. slipknot and their like just depress the fuck out of me and i don't see why they're worth the attention. a lot of stuff gets reviewed on here that's probably sounds worse than slipknot and i don't complain. at least they're trying to put something sincere or new into the music scene and theyre not just a sad derivative joke of a band whose success comes from exploiting fucked up teenagers with the most phoney load of crap i've ever come across...

ah well enough about slipknot. my other point is that all this holier-than-thou stuff about how we have to cover every area of the music scene and aren't allowed to make any kind of decisions about what we do or don't want to feature... how many fanzines or even magazines have you read that try to cover every part of the music scene? what's the point in trying to please all the people all the time? when it comes down to it the vast majority of writers and visitors here have some variety of indie/alternative/lo-fi/punk/leftfield bias and it's pointless trying to pretend we're not biased towards that kinda stuff. i think it's good to expand peoples horizons beyond whatever genres theyre currently into, but i mean that in the sense of exciting new underground or creative or original stuff. personally i'm extremely grateful for the fact that people helped me expand my horizons beyond the mostly indie/alternative stuff i was listening to around age 16 and got me into post-rock and electronica and various other exciting areas of the new music scene. that's what i think we should be doing here.

putting up reviews of slipknot and limp bizkit though, isn't going to expand people's horizons any more than us reviewing shiteloads of r&b chart wank... people have heard it already... it's all over the place... the majority of visitors here are gonna dislike it, whether that strikes you as indie snobbery or not...

sure, we could review lots of that kinda thing on the basis that it'll attract lots of new readers from the 14 year old metaller bracket, or the r&b/garage following, but then... frankly what's the point? that's totally losing sight of the reasons i became involved with drowned in sound. i don't want to see it become overrun by nu-metallers. i also dislike the kind of indie-snobs-in-denial who pretend to like, or even slowly force themselves to like some populist genre just to prove a point... or even worse to look ironic and cool... i'm not saying thats always the reason but sometimes it is and it really annoys me.

ultimately everyone has some kind of agenda about music and i think anyone who pretends to like or tolerate or defends everything is a complete hypocrite. we're all music snobs of some kind or another, whether you want to admit it or not. ultimately there's a point at which even the most supposedly tolerant person would leave. pick a genre or set of bands you hate. the more they get featured on here, the less it becomes something you can or want to identify with. maybe that sounds cynical but its true. if the agendas among contributors here become so disparate then maybe we should consider splitting it up. i don't know. the mix seems just about right at the moment but it has been hijacked/heading off in the nu-metal/skapunk somewhat recently and i guess thats what got me started on this long pointless rant. it's clearly heading nowhere so i'll shut up now

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The reason that there is a lot of Nu-Metal and punk stuff on here is because it's all I review and over the last 2 weeks I have put up a shit-load of Metal and Punk reviews. For example over this next week i'll be putting up reviews of gigs by Kid Rock, Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit.
I honestly don't give a shit about the people who write here's personal taste the fact of the matter is rock is hotter than it's been for years, and had i been writing here 3 or 4 years ago i would still have been doing the same genre of reviews. Lo-fi and the like doesn't interest me but i don't moan about it being on here! Writers on this website all write about different genres of music, mine is rock and i'm fed up with everyone whining about it being covered. If u don't like it don't read it.

Slipknot - Heretic Song

And when Slipknot actually do release a good song, how many stars are you going to give that?

The five star rating is bloody overused around here.

that's true

very few songs are worthy of 5 out of 5. Especially fucking Slipknot.




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