“No… speaking about the Foo Fighters’ music, it touches me... it makes me sad.”
“Dave’s music makes you sad?!!”
“Oh yeah. I get very sad.”
“Do you feel ashamed?”
Real rock music is not about ‘being nice’. Feeder and Travis are nice. They’re also pasty, dull, and once professed that ‘all I wanna do is rock’. They lied.
Foo Fighters want to rock, even if it is confined to a one-dimensional, stadium setting. Perhaps that’s what separates so called ‘post-grunge’ from grunge. Grunge – even the overwrought, goofy bands like Alice In Chains and Soundgarden – started out just wanting to eat up Black Sabbath riffs and spit them out even slower and heavier. The bands that followed (Foos, Live, Puddle Of Mudd even) only ever wanted to be Cheap Trick or Bon Jovi with a little more credos. So with ‘All My Life’ Grohl’s slight discomfort with his band’s predicament finally surfaced and he aped Queens Of The Stone Age’s edgy metal, even if the power-pop chorus gave the game away. Yet the rest of ‘One By One’ was nothing if not even more polished and anaemic than its predecessor. How must it feel to know that not just one, but two of the bands you drummed for, so brightly outshine your own?
To call Foo Fighters a vanity project would be to woefully undersell them. They are essentially now a fine American trad rock band with hardcore roots: songs like the melody heavy ‘No Way Back’ and ‘Best Of You’ place them as natural successors to the likes of Buffalo Tom and Screaming Trees, albeit without their finesse or subtleties. Of course, what they lack there they make up for with accessibility, universality, record sales. No harm, no foul.
There’s no frayed edges to this band. ‘In Your Honour’ wants to be Motorhead, sounds more like a sunnier Metallica, but Grohl’s voice is unable to deliver any shades of emotion. It’s a black-and-white instrument; tuneful enough on the slowies and suitable for ravaging screams when the riffs kick in, but lacking in any quality approaching character. The everyman syndrome strikes again.
Real rock music is supposed to rock. Each album since their debut has strived to rock harder than the last and yet each has succumbed to ever-increasing layers of gloss and painstaking over-production. You’d think a song called ‘DOA’ would hit pretty hard, but it’s little more than workmanlike. “It’s a shame we have to die my dear/No one’s getting out of here alive!” growls Dave, over the now familiar power chords and lifts. ‘The Deepest Blues Are Black’ would shame even Diane Warren in the power ballad stakes. Hey, that’s probably even some sort of compliment.
Like all true Buffalo Tom-ites, Foo Fighters like to think of themselves as sensitive souls. Thusly, disc two is a lesson in string-laden acoustica. Yum. “Hands on a miracle/I got my hands on a miracle,” goes the aptly-titled ‘Miracle’. It’s sweet. Perhaps something to sing a newborn to sleep to. Hmmm, ‘What If I Do’ and ‘On The Mend’ are quite a bit similar to ‘Walking After You’ from ‘The Colour And The Shape’. Which is fine. By track four, my eyes are feeling a trifle heavy. Two cans of Red Bull and a cigarette later I’m back in the land of the living only to hear Norah Jones’ silky croon spewing from my speakers. Is that a pig I see flying past my window? ‘Cold Day In The Sun’ makes me giggle, cos the riff sounds like ‘Best Sunday Dress’ by Hole. Oh the irony. But jeez, anyone with a Lemonheads album has gotta find this stuff pretty derivative, pretty insipid.
So yeah, ‘In Your Honour’ confirms one thing. The Foos are good at what they do: polished, melodic rock music, which rarely takes itself too seriously, offers many surprises or tumbles into flagrant self-parody. Sure, the Foos are excellent at what they do. It’s just unfortunate that what they do is so unavoidably mediocre.
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I heard "Razor" and "In Your Honour" of context and got rather excitied about the prospect of the full feature, but i think i was expectiting a bit too much to have a full album of songs like that. Good review too.
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I agree with the familiar pattern statement, it just seems to be that FF's music has become so rigid and unoriginal that the record has to be forced into the 2 cd hard/soft format, rather than the songs happily sitting side-by-side, as on some of the previous records.
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Ah well.
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forgot that I posted this last night....
*runs away*
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the first two records were really good and the third was a nice pop album
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This sounds better though.
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In fact I think it's my favourite of their albums because of this, but then all the tracks I like off any of their albums are always in the first four...
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I think the reviewer needs to consider what he deems to be rock music in the year 2005 and then maybe we can get an understanding of where this fits..a load of invalid mid 90's reference points doesn't really help to ascertain anything. 'a sunnier metallica',sorry, but in no way does it sound anything like metallica..that just lame.
Why so many band comparisons, which are all practically invalid..
From my opinion all their albums sincethe first have been hit and
miss, so I don't really expect anything else. Theres a few good songs, purchase maybe, download definitely, they can afford it.
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"Real rock music is supposed to rock"
Let me give you a clue, bub - because you won't find it scrabbling down there in the dark ages. ALL music is 'real' music. Stop imposing your set of values on your review. Take the album for what it is. You seem to manage to name the influences and set out what Foo Fighters are trying to do. So why not review how successfully they do that? Why not talk about the Double Album format? What is that conversation at the start of the review? Is there any point to the conversation? What point are you illuminating with that insipid half-baked shit?
Go read some more music reviews, learn your fucking trade, or go back to bed and wet it some more.
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Sadly, that's the point. There's little more to this CD than 'Sounds like...crossed with...meets'. I'm not here to review 'how successfully' a band do what they do. That's what I was trying to dispel. All this 'they're good at what they do' bullshit. What a lame excuse for being crap.
And you honestly call your yourself a reviewer and come up with the insight, 'Stop imposing your set of values on your review.' I take it you work for Q then?
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I can see what you were trying to do with this review. And it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't fail so miserably at it. You're trying to say something new about rock music in the 21st century. Any interesting points you try to make are baseless re-hashings of what has been said a million times before. It was trite then and it's trite now, just don't do it.
"Two cans of Red Bull and a cigarette later I’m back in the land of the living"
I wasn't going to mention this, but whatever, calling me a Q reviewer entitles me to hit this shit. I see you're trying some kind of Gonzo thing here. You know, where the reviewer talks about himself? Heh, yeah. But who cares about you? Who are you? This schtick only worked for about half-a-dozen journalists in the 70s and ever since has been an embarassing staple of student writing. So congratulations, you're in that particular club at least. At least take some acid or crystal meth or something. Fuck yourself up if you wanna make it interesting.
And if you already thought that what Foo Fighters do is mediocre then why waste space reviewing the damn thing in the first place?
I just think you tried to take your review in too many directions without finding a cohesive element to tie it all together.
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I think the point is, that the record is mediocre, and the review says 'This record - it mediocre'. It's true, the review is no artistic coup, but it is, aha, 'good at what it does'.
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The review is fine and the guy further explained what he was saying. Something he didn't need to do. To be honest I don't understand the point in posting to say how awful a review is. Ok, maybe to an extent it's fine to say 'i didn't really agree with ....', or 'that's not the case...' etc etc. For me, you’re far too eager to shit on this guy which is kinda sad.
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Haven't heard this record yet. Don't think One By One is as bad as many people (including, oddly, Dave Grohl) say, but The Colour And The Shape is in my top ten albums of all time.
Having said that, don't think much of the new single so this could be interesting...
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Nirvana were far superior although its a pointless argument as they were different bands.
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Plus, like Nirvana, it's really easy to play their stuff so it will live on long after the lead singer has died.
I haven't heard the new album yet tho, the new single sounds like they're still using that very successful formula
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I am so bored of this band. The chili peppers are more interesting, honest to god, the CHILI PEPPERS!!!
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there ain't nothing wrong with this review. i'd rather hear the opinions of someone who isn't the biggest FF fan since i'd imagine it'd be far more critical that someone who wanted Dave Grohl to do them bad things.
in the future rather than bitch about the writing ability of a reviewer, why don't you just post your own review? everybody is gonna benefit that way.
all the best
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"Real rock music is supposed to rock"
Notice that word 'Real' there? Yeah, me too.
Anyway, I don't wanna drag this out, i've said what i wanted to.
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I think the article is great and
"The Foos are good at what they do: polished, melodic rock music, which rarely takes itself too seriously, offers many surprises or tumbles into flagrant self-parody. Sure, the Foos are excellent at what they do. It’s just unfortunate that what they do is so unavoidably mediocre."
Is one of the best, most accurate closing statements EVER.
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if dave grohl werent part of the now deceased band that globalised grunge and created a legend, how well do you think he'd be doing now? you really think anyone would wanna hear the same cheese we got a hundred other commercialised bands playing if the guy wasnt the drummer from nirvana?
in nirvana, everyone loved him. Nirvana got their fair amount of shit but hey, now they are gone its all good. why couldnt he stick to drumming- 'what hes good at' rather than attempting something hes gonna fail at, and congratulating himself on failing well.
to me hell always be the guy from nirvana.
apparently the one who refused to attend kurt cobains funeral, though i dont wanna get too into that. nasty rumor to spead if rumor isnt truth. which it never is
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Anyway my point is, how can you slag him off!!???!! Obviously he is talented in vocals and drumming otherwise the foo's wouldnt sell so many records!
CUH
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so im just gonna say. dave grohl is an alright drummer, at least on songs for the deaf. best drummer in the world = jon theodore from mars volta.
sorry if ive started a drummer argument in a foo's thread... :-/
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back on topic... good review even though im not sure i agree with everything you wrote. however i will say that i am a foos fan, i loved them live, and i loved "there is nothing left to lose." grohl is a great musician, and not just a one trick pony as he has proved by showcasing his drum, guitar and vocal talents in various bands. although im not the biggest fan of "one by one" im curious about this new album as i think the singles pretty good.
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and also, on the acoustic front - who the hell would ahve thought the Foos and Nora Jones would ever work? (it does, rather acely) - futhermore, the track that Taylor sings is probably one of the best tunes on the album (along with the title track)
on the whole, decidedly meh!
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Foo Fighters are boring and played out like every other rock band in the mainstream. They get paid too much money to deliver reruns. Steal all their music, pocket your change, buy your own music equipment and play your own music. Believe me many are doing it.... its far moer satifying and for the most part.... Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age, etc. etc. are doing pretty much what many people could do with their eyes closed.... and better... There is so much out there. Noise core, Post core, Post Rock, Death, Drone, you name it. This music and many like it is absolutely boring passe, and has nothing to say about anything. It is abouit as creative as a turd in a toilet.... Go find some new artists without waiting for ABC, Rolling Stone, or Spin to tell you they are worth listening to.... Rock and Roll is a market to sell records its bottom line is profit.... period. If you do not see that you are naive.... The CEO of Capital doesn't give a fuck whether the music is good.... it must be marketable.... Art when it is unusual or unique can be hard to market so they push their artists such as Foo Fighters, Creed, Queens, Thrid Eye Blind, Blink 182, they have signed to crank out marketable schlock to increase profit.... see they pin pointed a market with a style, look, and sound. It can be counted upon to some level to bring in profit. There is a science in the business of music. So go out and find artists like Godspeed You Black Emperor, Explosions in the Sky, Isis, Pelican, End, Bloodbrothers, Boris, Orange Goblin, Unwound, Harkonen, you name it.... there is so many great artists across the world, without big corporates, cranking out amazing music on their own, happily, without the contraptions of the brainwashing bullshit Americans are force fed on the shitty sounding radio with as many commercial as you can fit in. Fuck if a song is too long you can't squeeze in a zit commercial. Get it? That's what the formula is about on the radio: How many commercials and profit off airtime for them can we squeeze in one day? Well if you control the sound and structure of a song into 3-4 minutes, speed it up by 5 beats, which is what radio broadcasters do.... you will certainly get Colgate, Acura, Oscar Meyer, and Budweiser in there.... Its not about music folks, its about MONEY.... real artists and musicians do not give a shit about that... teh fulfillment truly comes in creating and playing alone.... Best of luck to your endeavors in finding the greatest music out there which will not and cannot be on the radio.... its out there I can promise you that... A renaissance may take place away from the corporate beast.... Sharing files destroys the economic value of corporate beasts.... I am not against it..... Fuck corporate music.... Long live art that is born from the soul not the push for fame.. Beethoven didn't give a rat's ass if he was marketed or liked..... He just created... He taught to make ends meet.... and you know what? His music was not poisoned by the economic drive... it remains timeless just as Miles Davis and many others....
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Fair enough... but then many of us feel no need to apologise for having a 'pop' tinge to our tastes.
Having said that, whilst I think The Colour And The Shape is a fantastic album, I've just bought "In Your Honour" and it's a pretty pale imitation of former glories...
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We have enough Pop to last an entire millenium....
Great quote from Bono
"Pop makes you feel everything is alright"
"Rock tells you there is something wrong"
We live in world where there is Christian Islam war going on...
African AIDS, FAMINE, dollar value subsides,
Enivronmental disasters increasing'
Billion dollar kiddie porn industry
Corrupt Politics
And a beautifully submissive culture that is in more denial about the world's issues than a herion addict...
Pop is boring
Revolution, Anger, Sadness, Aggression, Intensity, and Rebellion is a NOW thing...
Enjoy the ride, break something and tell authiority to go fuck itself today...
Pop is a bit too Abercrombie and Fitch and full of shit for now at this point.... Just ask Ashley Simpson.
Bottomline There is so much to sing and rock about....
The greatest rock and music has something to say.... period.
So rock hard!!
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I enjoy Pop....
when it speaks to the soul....
need we say the catchy beauty of the Beatles or the genuis sounds of Motown....
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Still love them, but they don't excite me anymore.