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Oasis: Don't Believe The Truth

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? by Gareth Dobson
  • Type: Album
  • Release date: 30/05/2005
  • Label: Big Brother
Fact: Oasis have not made a good record for almost ten years. TEN YEARS. That's a very long time to be mediocre.

Fact: Oasis will never again make a great record. Why? Because, quite simply, they're not good enough. Lazy, disinterested, musically retroactive and professionally bankrupt.

Fact: 'Don't Believe The Truth' is a big stinking pile of rubbish.

Audio mediocrity wafts out of the stereo from the start; 'Turn Up The Sun' is a terrible dirge, while 'Mucky Fingers' is a ridiculous pastiche of the Velvet Underground that gets its name all mixed up - a Rolling Stones homaging title but a Lou Reed-ripping song. 'Lyla' we've all heard and ignored, whilst 'Love Like A Bomb' is one of those cringing Liam Gallagher efforts that proves why he should stick to croaking rather than composing sickly acoustic ballads; "Yer love's like a bomb / yer blowing my mind / yer turning me on." Honestly. Another Liam composition, Acoustic rocker (really) 'The Meaning Of Soul' is much better, but in the world of Oasis anthems, it ranks a little under halfway. His final effort, the barefaced Kinks steal of 'Guess God Thinks Im Abel' oozes sterility as does the humdrum take on 'regular life' that is 'Part Of The Queue', which is another Kinks-ian world view married to thrashed acoustics ala Oasis b-sides circa 1994.

Those of you worried that Noel Gallagher only offers less than half the songs; don't worry - his contributions are amongst the worst. On top of the aforementioned 'Lyla', 'Part Of The Queue' and 'Mucky Fingers', there's the benign 'Importance Of Being Idle' and album closer, the typically overwrought 'Let There Be Love' a psuedo-blustery anthem which attempts to be understated but merely succeeds in sounding shallow and thin.

Oddly, it's Andy Bell (he of Hurricane #1, don't forget) who offers one of the better songs; 'Keep The Dream Alive' is the sort of towering stadium crooner that they should be able to knock off in their sleep after all these years but don't seem able to anymore. That's not to say that it's particularly good, please note. Possibly, it's best not to mention Gem's effort.

Go to your outdoor shindigs, hear the hits, have fun. Just don't pretend to yourself that Oasis are moving foward. There's nothing wrong with staying afloat if that's the best that you can do. And that is the best that Oasis can do.

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Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth

Harsh, but fair...
tommymack | 26 May '05, 14:39 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Well at least they managed to spell 'idle' right. Credit where credits due.
Thom_fa | 26 May '05, 15:28 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Maybe Liam can teach you how to use apostrophes properly, eh?
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:36 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Could you sort that out for me? I'd love that, I really would.
Thom_fa | 26 May '05, 15:37 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Can you spell 'owned'? Cos I can.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:41 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'd like to see Liam spell 'apostrophes' first.
guntrip | 26 May '05, 16:11 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'd like to see him spell 'Liam'.
Browno | 26 May '05, 16:12 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'd like to see less patronising gits on DiS messageboards meself but we can't always get what we want. So I'll have to make do with calling you a tossing tosser of tosspot proportions.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 16:31 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Re: Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth

Can you spell 'owned'?
guntrip | 26 May '05, 16:58 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I already proved I can, you div.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 17:18 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Your post not so witty whent used again, huh?
guntrip | 26 May '05, 19:22 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I used it to make a point. You used it because you couldn't think of anything clever to say yourself.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 20:44 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Possibly not.
guntrip | 26 May '05, 20:47 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Also, to be entirely honest, from a band as completely anti-intelligence as Oasis, a band whose lead songwriter one claimed he never read books, I think jibes about spelling are more than justified.

But, obviously, I'm not a blinkered Oasis fan who responds to every criticism of said band with insults, so what do I know?
guntrip | 26 May '05, 16:59 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Nice attempt to justify yourself, but it don't wash with me.

Oasis aren't 'anti-intelligence' unless you define someone's intelligence on the number of books they've read. Which would be pretty fucking stupid, considering the person who invented the wheel probably never read a book in his/her life. What is your definition of intelligence?

The_Glory | 26 May '05, 17:16 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Only because books were invented some time after the wheel.
Mike_Diver | 26 May '05, 17:19 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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And the Beatles invented the wheel, didn't they?
That was on the 8th day, after they'd invented drugs and gravity.
sean | 27 May '05, 12:38 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Well, apart from the fact that I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself to you..

There's a difference between not reading and being PROUD that you don't read - it just strikes me as being a ridiculous secondary school attitude to take.
guntrip | 26 May '05, 19:22 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Noel does read books. He reads biographies. He's said so in interviews. But even if he didn't, he's still more intelligent than many people I know who do read books but have absolutely no common sense whatsoever. Some people just don't enjoy reading, the same as other people don't enjoy watching football or listening to rap music.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 20:55 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Inventing the wheel must have been a peice of piss, I bet it was simultaneously invented by many across the world 15,000 years ago.
roy_alt_error | 11 Jun '05, 11:29 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Failed with 'Abel' though.
Azzy | 27 May '05, 00:49 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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How many tickets were sold or how many albums were sold is not a very good way to determine how good is any band (Here Oasis). Personally, I believe, Oasis is utterly nonsense Western bullshit (Like almost everything in the West, sorry if I sound like a racist). Most of the people in the mob are arseholes, so if you are counting numbers to see how good Oasis are, it is a mistake. Fools will always vote for something bad and most of the people are fools. Anyone would agree with me, I believe. I do not respect the thoughts of a 15 years old or a child's choice who chooses to touch the fire but he does not know fire is not good for him. This is why Democracy is not a good way to determine a good ruler either (Votes of teenagers are worthless). The choice of the 'wise people' is what matters and wise people are not found in the west anyway. If you found wise people in the west, they would be Muslims and not listen to anything close to Oasis anyway. If you Want to find Good musicians, set your eyes on Indian music, it is far superior to anything you have created, in the formation, rhythm pattern and anything else. Far more creative and far more meaningful (I am NOT and Indian and neither am I an India fan). I have stopped listening to music because it does not mean anything to me. A part of growing up is not liking music anymore at all. You will all understand when you Do grow up. Is it not better to understand Now listening to me...?

-eusha@vpnbd.com
subrahmanyam | 10 Jun '05, 13:38 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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What a complete load of racist crap. Who are YOU to say the minority are right and the majority are wrong. What a self-righteous moron! Just because the majority don't share your personal view does not mean you are more intelligent or astute, that you are a special person that god singled out to have the perfect taste in music. There is no rights or wrongs in music. Who's to say what is good and what is bad music, where was it set down when god created earth... it's not music is personal tastes and the only way you can judge music is by how popular it is cause it shows that more people connect with this particular band or this particular music. You're just a narrow-minded fool!
sarahlovesblues | 10 Jun '05, 20:43 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Nah... Sarah... I am not narrow minded. You misunderstood. I am not claiming that I am wise but I do understand why wisdom is significant. When you grow up further, you will find it stupid to like what you used to like five or ten years back. It is just the way you throw your toys away after you grow up. Playing with toys would appear to be insignificant to you. The same way, you will grow up about music too. What you used (Ah, Britney Spears or blues it is {The stupidest music I have ever heard though the scale is a very interesting one}...?) to love when you were fifteen will appear to be 'Immature' to you when you are twenty five. And there is Of Course, rights and wrongs in mucis, my dear. I do not think the people who like pop stars (Including the rap stars {I do not know how rap is called music}) are ever 'good thinkers' or 'clean thinkers'. They are as stupid as you are, Sarah. I am just telling you the truth. Respecting the choices of others is something you Western people have invented just to console a few fools. Respecting a fool's choice is by no means a good thing. So, stop respecting someone who respects Britney Spears.

And, I do not know why I am talking to a woman about music. You women know nothing and understand nothing. The last time I had sex with a British woman I told her that it did not make a difference if she had a brain or not... You are British And a woman... Nice combination... Right...? I am assuming though...

Women are...

Inferior... my dear...

And I am not a chauvinist or a racist... I am just telling you the truth... And I know that this truth would never be soft enough for you to accept...
subrahmanyam | 11 Jun '05, 06:36 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Irrevocable proof that ridiculous but intelligent idiocy can be most amusing. Arf! I look forward to the next installment as the bait is cast and the fisherman sits there, waiting for a bite...
DrFurry | 11 Jun '05, 09:09 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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The only word I did not like in that reply was 'idiocy'...

But, I like the way you speak, DrFurry...

I had to use my dictionary to understand your reply though because English is definitely not my first language (My first language is Bangla)...

Well, I do not know what to talk to women about... They are worthless... The western society has given them the 'freedom' they have begged for such a long time... And what has that 'Female Freedom' given you...? A Britney Spears or a female Newton...? It has only given you worthless women (Of course, exceptions are there but exceptions are not enough; we must concentrate on the general case. To be truthful, even the exceptions have leaks in them)... So, make them stay away at home again and wear proper dresses...

And, if you are talking about the music, the western popular music is 'laughable'... It is not only true about the West. It is an inevitable truth everywhere... This is a sign of Qiyamah (It is an Arabic word and I would not bother translating) that everything would lose taste and worthless people will get credit for the worthless things they have done...

I am 19... And, I have grown out of your stupid Oasis, blues or any kind of things that came before me as a choice... To be truthful, I have never seen any band as insignificant and worthless as Oasis are (A humble sorry to the Oasis 'fans' {A disgusting word} but it is just the truth, you will understand yourself when you grow up).

In music, I like R Tagore (Whom they gave Nobel prize in literature; they used to call him Tagore because they could not pronounce Thakur), Telemann, Chopin, Ustad Ali Akbar Khan, Dvorák, Mozart, Beethoven, Ravi Shankar... And names that I can not remember at this moment... Please, do not ask me to like Oasis and blues...!

It does look like I am in my holidays... I have written a lot already... Anyway... I am going to run out of holidays soon...
subrahmanyam | 12 Jun '05, 05:49 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Subrah is a racist cunt.
wrightylew | 12 Jun '05, 11:59 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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If someone had posted: 'Everything in Asia is shit and the people are stupid.', it would have been taken off the site followed by a million insults.
wrightylew | 12 Jun '05, 12:01 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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If I were a racist 'cunt' (I do not know what that means but surely that can not be something respectful), I would not like Western music, Wrightylew... I have nothing against anyone in particular. I do not know the base of this accusation of yours. Look around yourself with open eyes and you will find out why I do not like the freedom you gave your women... Does not appreciating the unreasonable freedom of women make me a racist...?! Or not liking Oasis makes me a racist...?! Well, Radiohead, another British band does much better than Oasis even though I do not like Radiohead... I did listen to Oasis before I commented (I have all the albums they ever released)... They are a bunch of illiterate people who could not find anything better to do... Even Coldplay was a good group until they started getting to 'too many' people... But, anyway, Coldplay is still not good enough to be listened to... At least, for the people who are learning to play rhythm on guitars, both Coldplay and Radiohead would be a good suggestion for them... Stupid, meaningless lyrics is something Tagore never used to write (He died almost five decades back and he invented the music you call 'alternative' today before your worthless fathers were born).

So, why am I called a racist again...?

I do not disrespect Newton... I do not disrespect Fermi, Dirac or Einstein and all the French mathematicians (Fourier, Laplace and so on) the Western world has given us... I do not disrespect the German born Jewish (The Banee Israel tribe people) scientists... I have nothing against no one in particular...

Why would you... Call me... a Racist, my friend...? Because, I do not like Oasis...? Have you ever bothered comparing Mozart and Oasis...? Do not give me the excuse of 'Genre'... I can compose a million Oasis compositions every day but I would throw them away because that is not even the Worst I can do... Composing classical is much Harder than composing Oasis... Giving the excuse of Genre is just a pathetic pretext... There is nothing called Genre... It is Always about Good Music... And Mozart is Better than stupid Oasis... So, I do not Listen to Oasis and I listen to Mozart...

What a stupid arsehole you are... my dear... How long does it take for you to open your eyes...? What do you do all day...? Ever Thought about what you were Doing...?

Stupid sons of bitches have pervaded the world anyway...

Do not call me a racist again...

I am not one...
subrahmanyam | 12 Jun '05, 13:48 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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You insult my culture. Call it cultureist if you will, but I dislike the way some muslims treat women - like dogs...

... hold on... this is someone taking the piss... silly me!
wrightylew | 13 Jun '05, 22:49 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I am a Muslim myself...

And, we do not treat women like dogs... Every modest woman is respected in Islam... But, we do not of cousre treat women equally... There is a Strict difference between men and women (I am sorry for you if you fail to see that yourself)... Who said we wanted you to like the way we treated women...? But, yes, we have extreme approach too for the women who are too obscene and too blind...

A British female journalist was emprisoned by Muslim Mujahideen in Afghanistan (I am an Afghan myself)... She used to spit on their faces when they talked to her or brought food before her and they still treated her like she was a guest... She became a Muslim the other day accepting Islam... Our way about women is the best, my friend...

Do not try to judge Islam by the Muslims who are Not following Islam the way they should... You do not know what you are denying...

Personally, I apologize for the way I am... It is Not Islam's fault that I am so attacking and so immodest. I am surely an extrimist... But, Islam does Not itself support it... Do not try to read Islam through me either...
subrahmanyam | 14 Jun '05, 09:42 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth

I've really tried my best to be open-minded about this record, but there are just too many ridiculous unlistenable songs on it to take it seriously. The review's pretty much spot on.
Browno | 26 May '05, 14:45 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth

What a shockingly obvious review.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:07 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Not half as obvious as your comment. And at least the review sounds about right.
OceanStorm | 26 May '05, 15:13 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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He quoted one set of lyrics in the entire review and got them completely wrong. How is that right? And he accuses Oasis of being lazy.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:27 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Oasis ARE lazy, they are too lazy to think about new tunes, new ideas, pushing themselves at all, so they just repeat themselves endlessly with hopelessly diminishing returns.
OceanStorm | 26 May '05, 15:29 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Have you heard the album?
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:32 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'd rank it as their 3rd best album, which OK, apart from the first two that's not saying much, but I don't think it's THAT bad either.
domgourlay | 26 May '05, 15:36 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Alan McGee summed it up well when he said Oasis have been brave enough to grow up on record.

For me, Morning Glory was a record for lads made by lads, and Don't Believe The Truth is a record for dads made by dads. Sounds a bit wanky, but a fair assessment, I think.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:50 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Yeah, thats a fair point. Not that I'm a dad or a lad!
domgourlay | 26 May '05, 15:58 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'm waiting for James Hewitt to release a record for cads, meself.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 16:09 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I'll take that as a no, then.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 17:27 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Why did you change the wafts wafting bit? That was the best bit.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:12 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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What about the "bonus track" 'I Can See It Now'?
Thats possibly the best thing I've heard by Oasis for about 8 years! Spacemen 3 meets Brian Wilson with Noel's vocal put through Stephen Hawking's voicebox.
domgourlay | 26 May '05, 15:30 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Is that actually on the UK album? I know it's a bonus track on the Japanese version.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 15:38 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Its on the one I've got.
domgourlay | 26 May '05, 15:44 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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To each his own and all that, but this is a pretty lazy review. I've written album reviews, I've read legions of them, and I know a half-assed effort when I see one. It surprises me, since Dobson is usually better than this. He doesn't have to like it, of course, but I only think it's reasonable that he actually listens to the damn thing.
frankiethez | 26 May '05, 16:22 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Well, he sums up the songs pretty accurately, so I'm guessing he did.
scarfo | 26 May '05, 21:33 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Does anyone apart from "The_Glory" actually care about Oasis? I mean, really?
brusma | 26 May '05, 20:19 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I think the 75,000 people that sent Lyla to #1 last week do. And the 200,000+ people attending their summer gigs do. And the people who helped them sell out Madison Square Garden in a day do. Other than that, it might just be me, yeah.
The_Glory | 26 May '05, 21:02 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Remind me: how many people bought the Crazy Frog single this week?

I'd love Oasis to make another great record, but I've been waiting 10 years.
Damian | 27 May '05, 11:29 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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sorry, they don't count. you're a dick.
brusma | 30 May '05, 11:52 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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75,000? Hmmm...I always thought chart positions go on the number of copies a store orders in the first week, not how many actually were sold. I know for sure that in the record store I work in (which is the third largest in London) we haven't had to re-order Lyla at all, and look like we'll be stuck with the remaining units (not surprising really). Crazy Frog on the other hand just keeps on selling....
majorleaguer | 31 May '05, 19:06 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Most critics, with frankly more credibility than this aspiring rock critic, have given the album very solid marks-- Spin (A-), Filter (A-/B+), Q (4 Stars), even RollingStone, who despises Oasis gave it 3 1/2 stars. Does anyone care about Oasis? Well, they are the biggest concert draw in the UK, this album will go to number 1 in several countries, and the Guiness Book of World records named them the most successful UK Act of the last decade. So, yeah, it would be safe to say that people care. I thought that bashing Oasis was sooo 1998. Now it is just tired and lame.
BillyShears | 26 May '05, 21:28 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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I thought that bashing Oasis was sooo 1998. Now it is just tired and lame.

So you can't possibly comprehend the fact that, hey, maybe he just didn't like the album?

Hardcore fans amuse me so much. Especially ones that register on another website's messageboards just to defend their idols.
guntrip | 27 May '05, 10:34 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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It isn't the journalist's job to either a) 'bash' something based solely on the fact that it might be the exoected thing to do and neither is it b) to go with the flow from other reviewers. This review is simply an opinion - it's there to be either agreed with or disagreed with.

I've not heard the record, but to bee honest I trust Gareth's opinion over that of some glossy mag writer who needs to award said record a minimum of 3/5 to ensure advertising revenue from the band's label. Why the fuck do you think a magazine like Clash, or even Q, harldy ever dishes out a bad review? For the magazines in the newsagents reviewing is part of a bigger business; here it is simple opinion, unpaid for and benefitting nobody but those looking for a spread of assessments.

Thus, I conclude that this record IS probably shite.
Mike_Diver | 27 May '05, 10:40 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Although Q did trash 'Heathen Chemistry'.
Damian | 27 May '05, 11:30 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Did they?
I assumed that everything still got at least three out of five.
It did when I used to read it, a few years back.
Mike_Diver | 27 May '05, 11:31 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Q have also recently trashed albums from bands such as the Manics, REM, New Order and Garbage
Azzy | 27 May '05, 14:11 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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And they only gave 'Digital Ash in a Digital Urn' 2 stars!

Obviously not worried about that Saddle Creek advertising revenue then!
lyrical | 30 May '05, 23:14 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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What credibility do you need to review a record other than a love of music? Spin, Q, Rolling Stone... fuck, why not just list 'The Lady' and Stillwater Trout Angler? Who gives a shit how many fucking records they have sold or how many concerts they have given? All of that is rendered null and void now a fucking comedy frog can outsell them. Simply, this album is pissweak compared to Definitely Maybe and they've been sliding downhill ever since that first fantastic record. That's not some fashionable bitch at them, it's just how this honest fan who still plays Definitely Maybe on a regular basis feels, the same way I haven't bought the last three Manics albums. Why? Because they suuuuuuuuuuck.
DrFurry | 31 May '05, 10:42 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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'just tired and lame'

I think you've come up with a great title for the next Oasis album. Give The_Glory a shout, and he'll make sure it gets to Noel somehow!
Browno | 26 May '05, 21:33 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Hmmm. Great retort. Clever stuff.
BillyShears | 26 May '05, 22:57 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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A big stinking pile of rubbish is exactly the phrase I would use too. To describe this reviewer. Hahahaha!
ArtVanderlay | 26 May '05, 23:40 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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