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Shelf Life: 1 Year. Your Time Starts Now.
The Vines are this year's best band. There is no band in existence - EVER - that will make you shit yourself with such unrivalled joy. This statement will apply until January 30th 2003 - after which point, you are advised to stand by for further announcements.
Ye-e-e-e-e-e-e-es. Um... right. Hands up who remembers "NME Carling Award Brightest Hopes" Terris??
Ok, that's just the way it is. Bands get hyped for several months and applauded either for their startling innovation or their stylish and imaginitive updating/reinvention of an existing musical style. Once they are deemed to have outstayed their initial welcome, they are effectively offered the choice of coming up with some new - and unprecedentedly startling - material quicksmart, or kindly fucking off and granting us the dignity of forgetting that we ever [oh the shame] claimed to like them. "Who likes THEM anymore?!" That's the way it is. No point moaning about it, it just amounts to fighting rather pathetically against the rushing tide.
So? Does that mean we should just ignore it? Doesn't anyone else find it just a bit sickening? Aren't you fucking fed up of being told what you may listen to this month? Observe the use of the rhetorical questions; I know very well that a lot of people do and are. But right after the "it's shit isn't it" remark comes the "but that's the way things are" remark. Why should it be? "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". But it clearly IS broke, because bands are getting fucked over, music fans are getting sick of being expected to believe the hype year in year out, and it's steadily getting more boring than an evening in the company of Chris Moyles. [Let me clarify at this stage that while this article is written with a cheery nod to the NME, I am well aware that they are merely the most visible manifestation of this whole attitude, and my wrath is not aimed solely at them. So there.]
What the perpetrators of such methods are happy to ignore is that the people who've produced whatever album is making music hacks weep with unashamed nostalgia or seesaw dementedly at the sheer uncharted genius contained within it this month, have probably been making music for a far longer time than they've been in the public eye. Songs that infect the music-hungry public for a month may well be at least two or three years old. A debut album is very different to any other album in that its contents could indeed be perhaps half as old as the person responsible for it, because an artist working on their debut album may have a formidable arsenal of unused music to plunder.
But post debut, new material is demanded. Unless you're an artist of considerable stature, it's not enough to delve into decade-old personal archives - the baying public is crying for development, innovation, progession, the scent of the new. The way the current system of hype and dismissal works, if you don't meet expectations and keep churning out the hits, year on year, with little or no hesitation, you're last year's news. And if you're a slow-burner who, given time, can produce works of blinding beauty and chaotic perfection, but you require a good few years to assemble each 12-song collection? Fuck off. That's the message. Unless you've managed to single-handedly capture a zeitgeist that will remain in the collective psyche for several years to come, your career is over - even if, in fact, you were that successful during your initial heyday, your re-emergence may still be met with stinging cynicism and bored glances in the other direction - that'd be Elastica then. Fast workers wanted; turn up, stamp your card, give us a song, go home, and do it again tomorrow. It's a factory industry. Is it just me or does that seem a little saddening, when artists and writers and PR bods and label execs rave sycophantically about "art" and "creativity"? Doesn't creativity take time to harness?
Yes, some bands have a natural ability to fire out the hits like semi-automatic bullets, but others require more time. Surely there's room for both? Can we not enjoy what's around now and wait around for those who've taken a little longer? Surely we can make time to give someone other than music's current darlings a chance. Furthermore, many bands' best songs aren't their singles; little moments of perfection can hit you between the eyes from b-sides, album tracks, random songs that you found online and never knew existed [anyone heard "I'll Still Write" by the Cooper Temple Clause? To me it's one of their best songs, and it's tucked away as a b-side, and surfaces occasionally at gigs.]
Inspiration can't be squeezed out of a machine on a need-to-sell basis; some artists can take ideas from their daily lives, others find it in less predictable places. If we subscribe to the idea that bands should all follow a set career path, aren't we depriving ourselves of some potentially life-changing artists simply because they work differently? It's accepted that songs no longer have to follow the verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus structure, with bands like System of a Down, Trail of Dead and The Rock of Travolta altering our perspective with every passing day; isn't it time we updated our attitudes to bands' methods? Music's an industry, but it is also an art form, and it's time that we made room for both of those considerations. It only takes an hour to listen to an album, and a few repeated listens to begin the familiar process of getting to know the album - that being the case it seems sad that only the massive bands who enjoy extended fame and global status are allowed to keep us waiting for their magnum opus - why should other, smaller bands who could in time equal the Radioheads and Tools of this world in the public's esteem, be dismissed so readily?
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Shelf Life: 1 Year. Your Time Starts Now.
Radiohead and Tool? Ugh.-
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in defense of 'hype'
hype seems to be a huge issue at the moment, but i cant really understand it. music magazines websites radio etc go on about new bands, surely this is their job? 'there's just got to be new groups' as a great man once said. unless you want more articles about the charlatans.
terris, eh? i liked terris. i went to see them a few times. i bought their album. i still listen to the album, (though admittedly parts are a bit patchy). if they release another album i'd probably buy that (though to be honest id probably try and download a few tracks first). reading magazines or websites or listening to the radio, you'd hardly know terris existed, but thats how most bands are in between albums; recording, on holiday, whatever.
though media ignore anything a few weeks past it (busy getting excited over new stuff, ie, what we buy them for).
when a band like terris (that've been hyped to the moon) come back they usually get a fairly big reception for the 'long awaited' second album if its a few years later or rushed out in a fortnight or so, eg. mogwai, raging speedhorn, idlewild, rocket from the crypt, elastica, ash, ratm (both producing dodgy second albums and coming up with an excellent third).
and whether its great (it rarely is), as you said the first album is a product of probably half a lifetime, or not they usually get an approximately fair response.
many bands never do make the second album. this is usually because their label dropped them for selling about 47 copies, and they go back to working in hmv, some of these bands, if they have the drive, make it back eg. jimmy eat world, most dont. this is shit. it happens to a lot of bands. i lot of bands ive loved just disappeared, but short of buying your own record label theres fuck all we can do about it.
i just dont understand whats boring about being told about new bands, admittedly no-one wants to here one new band, constantly extolled; the best ever etc, and be done to death a la: strokes vines etc. but to be honest i want more hype; the yeah yeah yeahs, the hives, the bellrays, the vines, the parkinsons, cooper temple clause, the coral, the music, yeah the last two are shit but i never would've heard of them never mind been able to hear them if it werent for hype.
good point about industry pressure though, music should be art nor business.-
terris
"you'd hardly know terris existed"
as far as i know, they no longer do. sorry.-
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but, the NME put terris on the front cover when they hadn't recording anything. their album is class and i still listen to bits occasionally, but the hype surrounding them was ridiculous. they did co-headline a tour with coldplay, and i know who i'd rather see playing to thousands of ppl 2 years on. ah well.-
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actually that Terris album is decent and i thought they were rather good when i saw them at Dingwalls, but they were clearly never going to take the world by storm. hmmm, wonder what the band members are doing now...-
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well theyre wankering about at local incestuous indie clubs most regularly. and starting some questionable bands.-
Re: in defense of 'hype'
those bands mentioned who were hyped / produced 'long-awaited' 2nd lps...
mogwai - um? i believe here's a band that are not relelvant to this argument at all
idlewild - ditto
ash - slightly less ditto [arguably..]
rftc - do you know how many albums they have made? and when it was/which album it was that NME first started getting wet about them because of?
elastica are the only one in that whole list who were ever really 'hyped', in the proper music press sense of the word..
the whole strokes farrago was not only a truly nauseating high water mark in the history of music press hype; but also, it made nme seem more of a joke than it already was looking like becoming, and their utter refusal to entertain ANY suggestion of the Strokes being even the slightest bit not quite as good as their hype suggested (let alone, god forbid, a tad mediocre) was embarassing and harmful to both they and the band. Have there actually been *any* proper criticisms of that band in that rag yet by its writers yet, other than "not enough songs" [which has only ever been said in there by hacks who love them anyway]
funnily i end up returning to Mogwai - they truly eminated, i feel, as a result of the quality and distinctiveness of their music, set against the prevailing dadrock climate of the time. the press at the time were looking and focussed in utterly the other (musical) direction when 'young team' came out - with what was big at that point, they'd have gotten nowhere . Frankly, i'd rather have that than have nme thrust the latest [generally unworthy] new Best Band Ever down our throats.
[[I hope i've refrained from degenerating into Strokes Rant Mode here.......]]
there's another associated argument here about the entire state of NME now, without its rival in Melody Maker [pre-mag] to compete against/keep it in check, but i i can't be bothered ttyping any more about that paper tonight, ohzzzzz-
Re: in defense of 'hype'
i've absolutely nowt against hearing about new bands; what i hate is the arse-licking hyperbole that accompanies it, and the look-the-other-way-and-pretend-we-had-nothing-to-do-with-them attitude that surfaces a year later when such-n-such band isn't fashionable anymore. my point is, if journalists put their name to a band, so to speak, if they claim they're the best thing since sliced bread, then unless that band goes horribly shit, i'd like them to stick by their earlier comments, rather than pretending they hated them all along. it's cowardly. they're vocal enough about their opinions most of the time, and they should have the conviction to stand by those opinions.
and with that i'd like to take this moment to say that i alwayed liked sleeper. :) is it true they're reforming?
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i remember the feature interview nme did with terris. they came across as ballsy, angry, smart, mouthy, arrogant and obnoxious. i awaited their astoria show with high expectations. they turned out to be all mouth and no trousers; they were truly one of the shittest bands i've ever seen live. no songs, very little in the way of musical ability, the only thing they had going for them were good lyrics but those got maimed by singer-blokey's homicide-inducing vocals. saw them a year later and they'd actually gotten worse.
to make things doubly cruel, i got mixed up about the bill the first time round, thought my vitriol were terris and vice versa...went home saying "'ere, that terris are a bit good, aren't they, shame about my vitriol". it was at least a week before i realised my mistake. foolish foolish me. *shame*
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Shelf Life: 1 Year. Your Time Starts Now.
I also blame the NME for all bad music ever, the ill health of George Best and the sad death of Petra, the Blue Peter dog.-
NME vs. Melody Maker
Half the NME staff are ex-Melody Maker. But they were never really in competition anyway as they had the same publishers, and even cross-advertised.-
Re: in defense of 'hype'
I can't see how NME will ever be able to deny their responsibility for The Strokes and The Vines etc. inevitably going out of fashion. They'll just move onto the next band, which is fine with me, 'cos they're the New Musical Express.
I doubt Sleeper are reforming - Louise Wener wrote a very interesting article for The Guardian recently, although at the end of the day it was to plug her book. From what she says it seems very unlikely she'll take to the stage again. I liked them too - well, their first one or two albums anyway ;)-
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Er, like he/she said: "thats how most bands are in between albums; recording, on holiday, whatever".
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Thats true. they are [or rather, were] fighting over the same audience though, albeit with slight slants in the writing style and style of music covered. so any competiton was always to be beneficial to the publishers i guess [as long as both were in good health..]. And yeah there was the cross advertising too, tho offhand i can only recall MM in NME during its death nell when [and because] readership figures were in dire freefall
there was historically a rivalry of sorts there though. Nothing fierce or bitter, but was always there, from decades past up to the 90s - eg the regular digs in the britpop/dadrock years back in the Angst page about NME being "The Number One Selling Music Weekly *TM*". And with regards to the staff....well they have to make a living, if one mag/paper comes up with a better offer/more money, and they felt it was right to move on, then thats fair enough. Its their career.
and you couldn't blame some of the ex-MM staff for leaving the paper when Mark Sutherland took over....
[oddly....Steve Sutherland's appointment as NME editor prompted a similar exodus - lamacq/hobbs/collins/maconie/etc - summat to do with that surname?!....anyway that's unrelated sorry...i'll go to bed] -
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you evidently missed the point then. [even though i did state it very clearly in nice simple english at the end of the second or third paragraph or something... WELL DONE, I SALUTE YOU!]
it isn't a rant about the nme. it's a rant about something of which the nme is merely the most visible example. my comments apply equally to anyone - individually or collectively - working in the industry who contributes to this attitude.
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Re: in defense of 'hype'
*reads article*
it seems to be the full-length version of the article she wrote for elle this month. interesting, i agree.. i don't know if it's definitely true that they're reforming but i was told it was actually announced on the six o clock news. no doubt the world will indeed be shaken by the re-emergence of sleeper.
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I've never denied liking Sleeper, even when I was told "Oh, they're just the crap Elastica."
I never got to hear the third album though... I was in debt at that time. ::sigh::
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Re: in defense of 'hype'
well, pretty much guilty on the count of being too young to know who nme did didnt 'hype in years gone by'. i pretty much plucked out a half dozen bands whose first albums got good reviews. and managed to get a second one out.
when the strokes finally get their 'long awaited second album' together you can bet there'll be a huge fuss about it in the nme and elsewhere in the press and probably someone will slate as the crap it inevitably will be. and then everyone can get round to saying they never liked them anyway, from music journalists this is pretty much to be expected and from people who bought it they are too stupid to count.
and anyone who stuck to whatever opinion they originally held and feel smugly superior.
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Amen, brother
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the last two are shit?
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great article
loved it. been having similar thoughts for ages.
i'm also particularly suspicious about the way publications like the NME choose which bands to promote in the first place... for example, The Rock of Travolta - a very promising band IMHO - has been ignored by them big time, and when they did review one of their releases, they completely slagged it off. did their managers not pay well? i don't know... -
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you know the answer though..........don't read nme if it annoys you this much. buy records you like. terris were taking a big risk first when they built up too much hype (they could have turned down the nme cover, or been more modest/cautious in it) and second when they took over a year to make the first record. The strokes and the vines are reaping the rewards of being more shrewd in handling the media and getting the record out at the peak of their fame. terris took a big risk (a risk that slow building bands like ash, idlewild etc) avoided) but it didn't pay off. this is the reality of major label life. you have to get the marketing right to sell records and you don't have artistic integrity to fall back on once you sign to emi etc.
i don't like this reality (its business and business is irrelevant to music) but it will never change. bands who sign to majors know that its a huge risk but when it pays off they get riches and the artitic freedom now granted to radiohead with the resources to back it up.
with an indie however, it is not a 50/50 each way but a long shot to make a living, and ultimately even good bands want to avoid real jobs and money worries - isn't that why people join bands. there are many notable exceptions - both those groups who play entirely for fun (chuck from hotwatermusic is also a potato farmer) and those indies that are good businesses (ie dischord, warp!).
what can we as fans do? not a lot. but buying those classic slated albums and showing that we couldn't give a shit who is hyped this week would help. When my Vitriol and JJ72 return don't turn on them if you liked them two years ago. and buy the new gomez album. if you don't do this you're as guilty as anyone else. but is this really that important? we can't, after all, buy every cd that comes out. someone somewhere will always undersell, its a shame but its also a fact.
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