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John Lydon: racist?

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by zahidf

http://www.nme.com/news/bloc-party/38297
If true, Lydon is well out of order.
On the new sex pistols DVD, he has a few comments about the loss of English culture which certainly has a more sinister meaning with this incident.

zahidf | 21 Jul '08, 11:12 | Send note | Report this | Reply

I'd like to punch Kele Okereke

but not for reasons of race.

Just because Bloc Party are one of the most appalling, over rated, pretentious bands this world has ever had the displeasure of listening to.

"Mercury's in retrograde. Mer mer mercury"

JUST SHUT UP!


I think

I read something about some homophobic comments while on stage at the Isle of Wight festival too... what a clown.


Have any of these got records out soon?

Honestly, as much as the Bloc Party guy's a bit of a nob, you couldn't accuse him of having a black attitude.


what

the fuck?


so that's who that troll was yesterday!

in all seriousness, i'd be pretty gutted should that be true, he's someone i've always had respect for.


I remember hearing PiL and thinking 'John Lydon's not so bad...'

Then I read that after vowing never to play Sex Pistols songs with PiL he went against his words during the downfall of the band, and PiL essentially became a Sex Pistols cover band.


What's a "black attitude" anyway??!!

I'm not too sure why anybody's surprised by this - Lydon has been acting like a complete and utter cunt for most of his life.


Just because he beat up a black man,

doesn't mean it was racist.


well

if beatign him up for reasons fo race, then it is...


And where does it say that that's

why Lydon beat him up? Nowehere. You've just made it up.


Where did zahidf mention Lydon?

Nowhere,y uo just made it up. Just cause Lydon didn't do it doesn't make it not a racist attack...


Zing!


:D


Plus the article clearly says

it was his entourage that bought race into it, not Lydon.


^ correct

anyone leaping to the conclusion that lydon is racist based on that article is a reactionary moron.


^yep


See above post.

It doesn't appear to be the case.


did he beat him up

for making shit music?

doesn't sound like a racist attack to me, unless he made it clear he was beating him up because he sees himself as being superior to him (Kele).

either way he's a twat.


and by that i mea

superior because he's white.


i take this back

should have read closer.

okay, he's a very big cunt then.


besides even if he did beat him up for making shit music

he makes far worse music.

and thats no excuse anyway


Some of the things Lydon has come out with lately

Had me going "hmmmmm" and I think this confirms it.

I do love the idea of Yannis and Ricky Wilson coming to rescue like indie heroes


whaaaaaaat the

fuuuuuuck....

i don't believe it. this is some surreal dream.


^ indeed, imagine if Ricky Wilson wasn't there

and he'd had to rely on Belle & Sebastian's Stuart Murdoch for the muscle.


^ heheh


But wasn't Stuart a boxer?

In which case he'd bring the smackdown...


oh yeah - i remember that fact coming out

in the infamous Steven Wells exposé.


HAHAAHAHA, yeah right

I'm surprised the article wasn't "Kele was attacked whilst playing an underground guerilla concert with The Horrors, Does it offend you yeah and Foals when JOHN LYDON came in and attacked him. Mick jagger, Robert Plant, eric clapton and other SNOOZE ROCKERS fought lydons corner. Naturally they lost. NEW MUSIC REVELOUTION.


and it doesnt say anywhere in that article that

lydon laid a hand on him. if i was him, id be filing a lawsuit against the hack journalist responsible for this misleading piece of rubbish.


i'm pretty sure he started fighting him

and then his mates beat kele up. i'm not so sure he's racist though. he might just have heard mercury


how could you possibly be pretty sure?

were you there? or are you going on the same few hundred words as everyone else?


because otherwise

it would just have been some miders beating him up. it would be pretty much illegal to say they had a fight if he didn't fight him at all


its pretty much illegal to print the article as it is

considering at least half of those who have read it and posted here, got the wrong end of the stick with regard to mr lydon's racist attack, so i wouldnt put anything past them. the article only states he was aggressive and intimidating, which, though reprehensible, is not the same as assault.


Whatever actually happened

Johny Lydon is still a complete cunt and nothing but a washed up parody of himself.


if it was a genuine fight

kele would have destroyed old man lydon


Surely he's still a wanker

for either
a.) beating someone up
OR
b.) letting his entourage beat someone up.

Race doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it, he's still a tosser.


What a fucking twat.

Lydon deserves a slap. Nae excuse at all. And if he's come out with a homophobic comment, thats just hypocritical - the early London punk scene used to hang out in gay bars.


hmmm

racist comment aside (and from whoever, that's not very forgiveable), I wonder what mr bloc party must have said to antagonise the situation...?


It would have to be something REALLY bad

To make it ok for them to beat him up.

I can't really think of an example...


The fundamental problem is that, clearly from the artricle, the NME doesn't actually know what happe

And, as we've only got that to go on, neither do we really.

Certainly the article implies Lydon is a twat and possibly a racist but I'd probably a like a bit more detailed account of what happened before jumping to any conclusions.


MY MERCURY'S IN RETROGRADE

MERCURY M M MERCURY

they have that out


theres plenty

of stories of Lydon bein a cunt in the past - from the mouths of legends like mudhoney and the minutemen.....


There is only one way to settle this!

A hell in the cell match!

No D/Q's
No Interferance
No Timelimit

Special guest ref = Brian Eno

@ wrestlemania

Kele vs Lydon in a match which pit's Indie against Punk!


I was at Summercase in Madrid

and I have to admit that I thought the Pistols were a major let down, at one point during their set John Lydon was trying to get the crowd to chant 'Hail to Allah' or something like that. All very strange


You people disgust me.

He fought in two world wars for the likes of you.

If it wasn't for John Lydon you'd all be speaking German now.


John Lydon

is an embarassing cunt.

I heard him being interviewed on the Xfm Breakfast show a few weeks ago, and Alex Zane came out of it looking like the wit of the century.


John Lydon is an Twit of the highest order

John Lydon is a grumpy cantankerous old man who should fuck off and leave everyone alone. I am a fan of the Pistols but have heard enough to know he would receive the business end of my fist in his face if I ever say him skulking around. I know one of his old PAs and she confirmed what a violent tosser he is.


Just out of interest.

How many ends does your fist have?


:D


Strange indeed

I hope they (the police) get to the bottom of it. I am having trouble with this reported scenario where Lydon is approached by Kele (basically as a fan) and just getting beset upon out of the blue.


eurgh

this is horrible.

Not that it's all that surprising.


John Lydon - Punk Legend

The term "punk legend" is an oxymoron - whereas John Lydon is simply a moron. I had the misfortune of recording some of these morons when "punk" arrived on the scene in the late '70s, and they are still the same old bunch of talentless blowhards that they have always been. What they do is circus, not music, and the sensationalist-seeking sectors of the media have much to answer for in creating nonsensical concepts such as "punk legend". I read recently that JL told one of his victims to grow up and come back when they had achieved what he (the great JL) had! What's that John? First prize in "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here"? Punk was crap the first time round, and the sooner we consign the second time round to the dustbin - for good - the better! (Having got that off my chest, I suppose I shall now live in permanent fear of a visit from JL's thuggish entourage).

Billy the Kid


you signed up just for this?

1- sex pistols werent talentless, and '1976 uk punk' is good
2- the above is in no way indicative of the punk genre as a whole.


This reminds me

of the NME letters page circa 1977.


Yeh


it says ricky wilison stepped in to help break up the fight

he must have pridicted a riot if he didn`t help


I think Skin from Skunk Anansie

complained about racist remakrs directed at her from John Lydon when they supportedthem. She said hte rest of the pistols were really nice but he was openly racist towards her





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