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how does everyone else go about it?
i mostly use
-bulletins
-facebook stuff
-announcing your site at gigs
-telling people.....
-by being vaguely good so people will listen

i know its a slightly ego massaging way of getting your band about, but i wondered if anyone else had any tips on how to get a little bit more exposure for it?
some people are probably going to say "gig loads" and this is a good point.
i just want as many people to listen as possible!

(might as well www.myspace.com/parisriots_

parisriots | 20 Jul '08, 17:42 | Send note | Report this | Reply



  • I first heard about your band...

    last month, through here. I think someone recommended you. I like your music a lot, infact I meant to ask, do you have CD's for sale?

  • Do gigs

    You're everything that is wrong with stupid "indie" bands today.

    Who gives a fuck about myspace plays?

    Do shows, if people hear you, they might want to listen to you.

    Being a musician has fuck all to do with spamming fuck out of the internet.

    DIE.

    • well.....

      ...posting links that actually work would be a good start ;)

      i find plenty of updates, rotating songs on the player and posting bulletins to say so, new stuff, videos, blogs that include people ie competitions etc.... plus obviously gigs, radio play,tv appearences etc all help.

      I always manage to sell out my self released eps and a big bulk of these go to myspace people

      x

      www.myspace.com/stickboyuk

      • im annoyed about this as well.

        damn underscore being next to closebrackets

        www.myspace.com/parisriots <<<<<no underscore!

      • I always find

        the problem is maintaining plays, on certain days they'll be hundreds and the next day it appears no was is interested. Maybe they'd heard enough. I would definitely recommend flyers or badges to give out at live gigs, and sticking your myspace on it, has worked for us in the past.

        To be honest i don't EVER click on bulletins any more, so i'm not sure if that's the way forward.

        www.myspace.com/subrosauk

        ;D

    • i knewwwwwwwww

      i would get at least one reply like this.
      ill say it again. its not like im going to get kicks out of logging on every morning to "omgzzzzz 10009093 plays". its more about the idea of someone sitting and listening to what youve created.

      and thats also why im asking, because im fed up of millions of bands sending me countless messages every day about listening to them. i wanted to see if anyone had any other more creative ideas.

      do you just think a policy of `"do gigs" would work. previous experience shows that you end up playing some absolutely fucking dire places that were pointless... i know you need to play the bad gigs to also experience the good gigs, but you need at least some kind of quality control.

        • apologies

          there was supposed to be a "just" in there....
          but thanks for jumping to your own brilliant conclusion though anyway......

      • only play gigs that you want to play

        i know loads of people will disagree but if you actively don't want to play a certain gig night because you're 99% certain no-one will watch/care just don't do it - it'll just be a waste of your own money (travelling etc) and effort.

        send out lots of messages to promoters you like and to gig nights you like attending yourself and they might put you on - hopefully people will like you and come and listen on myspace.

        • thats kind of

          what i was saying about being selective and not playing the ones that make you want to die...

  • I try not to worry

    about plays. But I do. Though I shouldn't cos I don't accept that many friend requests.

    I'm not sure how much notice any people take of myspace plays. Do promoters use it to decide who is a bigger draw between two bands they don't know well? or something like that?

    • play gigs. Tour.

      Release cd's. Get press. do tv show things. get reviewed.

      There's no secret formula. It just gradually happends as your profile raises.
      Like we used to get 40 a day. Now we get about 150 or maybe 200 after playing shows and getting our name about.

      • exactly....

        ....i did this thing around new year when i posted a bulletin saying i would write a song a day, video it and post in on my blog on the day.
        The songs had to be from ideas posted by people on the blog.... i got soooooooo many views and nearly 200 people sending in ideas.... even made it into the manchester evening news

        crazy!

        x

      • Igordan,

        you write bulletins pretty often though. Do you do that to get more plays? Don't more people see the bulletins than see the reviews?

        • Yeah I post bulletins.

          It's not to get our plays up though. I just get very bored.
          Um maybe. i dunno really. I don't really think about it to be honest.
          It's not a big deal the plays thing to be honest. It's just a natural thing. The more people who discover your band the more people will listen.
          For the love of god though. Don't add people on myspace. That is god damn irritating.

          • I got the idea you do it cos you're bored

            you wrote one as I wrote that last post of mine.

            I enjoyed vetting our friends for people that clearly have no idea who we are and couldn't care less that we added a few years ago in fear of neglect.

  • Great thread 10/10

    Would read again.

    • PS

      (You're probably playing music for the wrong reasons)

      • trust me

        im not. music, and playing music with my friends is the most important thing in the world to me. so dont say that.

        • Then

          why does it matter to you how popular you are?

          • because id rather

            really enjoy playing music AND have people appreciate it as an added bonus?
            not much wrong with that is there?

  • You're not really giving anyone a reason to visit

    A page that takes an age to load, nothing to read in your 'about me', no blogs, a picture that doesn't stir much interest. If you're selling a CD you could at least let people know. So you could usefully work on all that.

    Of course the point is not to get myspace plays, but to pick up genuine fans. Which you're not going to do without interacting with them - people don't come running if you build a better mousetrap. Sticking up a mailing list would be a start, and ask people who leave a complimentary comment if they'd like to be on it. And get your own website and stick Google Analytics on there - that's where you really need to be sending people, not MurdochSpace.

    I'm guessing you need to get a bit more proactive. If you don't want to play crap gigs try asking for decent ones, approaching bands you like who are a step up the ladder, etc.

    Get a website sorted, facebook, bebo, lastfm, iLike, iMeem, PodshowMusicNetwork, etc profiles and make sure they all point to your website. Contact appropriate music bloggers, fanzines, webzines, etc. Use google to search myspace for people into your type of music and add them.

    There's just so much you could be doing - worrying about myspace plays shouldn't be one of them.

    • cheers for this

      weve got a facebook and a last.fm page etc. and your point about picking up genuine fans and not just stupid myspace friends is a good one. ill consider the rest a bit of a checklist :)

      once again, im not worrying about myspace plays really. i just used that as a kind of benchmark for getting people to listen to and be involved in the band. not because i want loads of people to listen to it on there so i feel really really really COOL

      • Yeah

        I didn't really think you were obsessed with plays. The only good thing about the play counter is that it gives a very, very rough idea of how many are listening. Only you don't know how they got to your page, whether it's one person listening a lot, loads listening once and buggering off never to return, or whether you've got 20-odd people checking your page once a month looking for new material. It's worth bearing in mind that plays aren't counted until most/all of a track has played, which means someone listening to the first 20 seconds of a track won't register. Which is another reason to give them something to read - it'll keep them on the page longer. Change your content often - it's what keeps people coming back.

        Use google analytics on your own site and you'll get all this - where they came from, how long they stay, whether they're new users, where they're based. You can use this info to tweak your site - if people aren't coming back maybe you need to write something more interesting, if most referals are coming from facebook then you can concentrate efforts there or if someone has linked to you in a blog you can follow it up. And if you're getting a lot of hits from Manchester maybe it'd be a good time get a gig there.

        You need to do everything you can to maintain a relationship with people who like your music. That means writing personal 'thank you's to people who contact you in any way - leave it in there comments section, but NOT a standard 'thanks for the add' and HUGE banner - and follow it up from time to time to remind them you exist, mailing lists, mobile text lists, offer to send out free stuff (which could just be artwork, demos, videos or anything else that can be downloaded). Anything to prompt people to think about you.

        I've got bands I've added to friends, bookmarked their page and then forgotten all about them until I stumble across them while looking for another bookmark. They never replied to my complementary comment, never followed up at a later date, never asked if I'd like to be on a mailing list or even offered the opportunity to add myself. And just looking at one of these bands pages, there doesn't seem to be much different so not much of an incentive for me to go back in a hurry. A wasted opportunity for them to pick up a potential fan who'd actively sought out their page.

        • cheers musky

          ill definitely take this all onboard. and thanks alot for taking time to write a bit of an essay on it! much appreciated

  • we've now got

    one of the songs off the EP available for download for just today, if anybody wanted to grab it:)
    just done a little bit of updating on the page. and will have a new layout and more interesting stuff on it soon!
    www.myspace.com/parisriots