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JoFo overrated?

im gonna put that out there...

not that great.



  • Better live than on record

    IMO. That's not to say they won't nail it in the studio given time...

  • I agree

    Eyes Wide Terrified pisses me off no end.

  • never heard a single note

    but "JoFo" has to be one of the most irritating abbreviations in history.

    • ^

      • Its reminds

        me of FoSho, which obviously means for sure :/

    • yes. it's vomit-worthy.

      and entirely typical of this website.

  • Agree

    with you on that one

    • What really

      pisses me off about there new album is the 'hidden track', absolute balance was such a great way of finishing an album, then it's destroyed with a horrible pointless song. I hate skipping songs on albums, but that has to be one of them.

  • sweet

    thought i was gonna get layed into for that comment. I just used the "JoFo" abbreviation to make more of a point.

    Every bloody story or post on this site is about them, so i finally checked them out yesterday. Meh.

    • definitely overrated

      thought i was a lone voice here. not a fan and can't see what all the fuss is about from all of the singles i've heard. in fact i think it's a load of of indie student twaddle. *waits in anticipation of death threats from half of DiS*

  • I think

    we've had far more "JoFo are overrated" threads than "JoFo are great" in the last month, although admittedly the latter held sway for the period before that.

    • maybe

      the threads are steering towards everyone realising that they're poo. But DiS keeps releasing stories about them every 5 minutes (reminds me a bit of NME when Arctic Monkeys started)

      • thats really not even true

        i dont think ive read more than one or two stories about Johnny Foreigner the whole time ive been on DiS. fair enough dont like them, but dont make stuff up.

    • I think they're really good

      definitely one of the best UK bands around at the moment. Probably slightly over-rated within these forums, but definitely not in the real world.

  • They are good

    not great, but good... they do solid music and are flying a flagship for the UK music scene which has the chance of being mainstream without being laddy trendy topshop rock

  • not even nearly

    that great

  • still don't think i've ever heard them

    still not that bothered

  • How long is it

    since we had a "Foals are overrated" thread?

    Yawn.

    • since it became forbidden to do that

      on DiS...

    • I love the Antidotes Bonus CD tracks

      Maybe not the rest so much anymore.

  • You're all SICK...........

    sick and wrong!

  • It's still early times for them.

    Overhyping then slagging band is much too common. Give the bands time.

    As for "JoFo", I like what I heard and will buy the album when my record shop will manage to get it.

    • nah

      I think they've already been all over and ppl are pissed off just by seeing their name everywhere

      they're another case of "good not great" that'll disappear in a jiffy - and what a fucking silly name: could you imagine your mates' faces when you tell them "check out this great new band, they're called JoFo"??!!

      • ....except they're actually called Johnny Foreigner

        • but

          that's an even worse name than JoFo!

      • 'theyre called Johnny Foreigner'

        not really any sillier than 'The Kooks'

        • Surely a far less

          irritating name than The Kooks.

  • nah.

  • Is it really necessary for both them and Los Campesinos! to exist?

    Thought not.

    • you're an idiot.

      ;)

      • I am.

        But they still sound like Bis.

        • please

          you or anyone please explain how we sound like bis. use song examples if you can; i love bis and i cant see it at all.
          cheers, alexei

          • Sugar sugar kandy pop

            push it down and EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP

    • This JoFo/LC! comparison is lazy.......

      and betrays an ultra shallow knowledge of music.

      Errrr....they have boys and TEH GURLZ in the band and they're both a bit hyper....well, Superchunk fit that bill too and they sound fuck all like either band.

      • 'ultra shallow knowledge of music'?

        Bollocks. They sound similar. They're both alright. End of.

        • no finger-tapping or gut-wrenching screams in LC!

          no glockenspiel or songs about being an elitist indie kid in JoFo.
          buh?

  • Johnny Foreigner

    is a quality name, I love how when you Google it there's also links to Daily Mail messageboards

    The album has grown on me as I was originally very sceptical after seeing the ridiculous number of "Johnny Foreigner are the greatest band in the universe" threads, 8/10 is an ideal rating for them

    & they're playing my gig night in Wrexham on Thursday

    • i'm slightly

      bored of the 'are they/ aren't they' a decent band threads. I'm really not a fan so I would prefer there to be no threads about them at all. Ever.

      Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Cheers.

  • Children,

    what you have to realise is that you're confronted with more Johnny Foreigner than your average human being, because you read Drowned in Sound. There is an underground of British bands that really don't get much coverage in the UK beyond this website. It's not as though they're regularly mentioned in the NME or T4 music programs.

    I find it hilarious when bands like JoFo receive hostility on these message boards. It seems such a childish over reaction. They are basically us in a band. They listen to the same bands that we by and large listen to, they post on the same message boards, they are fighting the good fight.

    They are beautiful, beautiful people, and they are an incredible band. You wish you were doing what they were doing.

    • Yes

      There's, i dunno, 400 million bands who deserve to be ripped to shreds way-way-way before Johnny Foreigner?

      People need to get their priorities in order. Or are they just jealous? Oops.

      • I'm sure they must be a little jealous.

        Why wouldn't they be?
        Yr band sucks though.

        • I know we do

          It's called "winging it" :)

          • maximum results

            with the minimum effort. It's the only way to be.

    • ^ This in it's entirety

    • ^^^

    • So I'm not allowed to dislike them because they're 'underground'?

      (This is a genuine question, by the way, not hypothetical)

      • No.

        You can dislike them by all means.

        I just find it funny and silly when people get so vehement about it. Like, you said a song of theirs pisses you off. Simply don't listen to it. It's not as if it's forced upon you by radio or anything.

        Also, you've jumped on one word of my post. I didn't go anywhere near suggesting you should like them for that reason. You may as well have said " So I'm not allowed to dislike them because they're "beautiful"?".

        • oh yeah

          I know it's not forced upon me by radio, but like people above have said, I'm sick of everything little thing they do being talked about on here. Also, I find the argument "Don't listen to it" REALLY irritating, I'm not going to listen to it, but does that mean I'm not allowed an opinion on it?

          The reason I didn't mention the rest of what you said is that I sort of agree with it, it was just that particular point I had difficulty with.

          • who talks about every little thing they do?

            REALLY WHO DOES THIS! WHO?!

            they dont. and plenty of other bands get talked about far far far more. so sshhh

    • bands receiving hostility

      unheard of.

      • real smart post.

  • I like them

  • Piss off.

    You just hate music.

    There's not a band in Britain doing what they're doing.

    • ^ this is silly

      i don't particularly like their kind of music generally though so i'm not going to slag it off when clearly other people like it.

      all i will say is that i heard a wombats song the other day and tbh i thought it was johnny foreigner. i know i'm going to be crucified for that on here but you know it's true really. the only difference as far as i can see is that johnny foreigner's singer is more irritating.

    • Yeah, but you can say that about alot of music.

  • Until I opened this thread I had no idea they were so polarising.

    I feel like I'm letting myself down by being apathetic about them. I'm listening to them really hard now (almost giving meself a hernia) attempting to summon some vehement feelings either way. Maybe I am a shallow bastard after all. What does it all mean, really? I feel like the protagonist in an Albert Camus novel.

  • i don't think they can be overrated

    as they aren't rated that highly in the first place by most people. so a lot of people on here, and at DiS like them? Yeah well its the kind of music people aroundhere like, and they do it very well!

    I think they are great, and the album is brilliant. although i do agree that the bonus track is a bit annoying, even if i do still like it, considering how perfect an end Absolute Balance would be.

  • Don't know about overrated

    but they're certainly indie-by-numbers shite

    • care to justify that statement?

    • indie-by-numbers?

      they sound like Meneguar and Cap'n Jazz. When is that indie by numbers?
      Incidentally, their guitar parts are awesome.

  • It's interesting

    that it's a band like Johnny Foreigner who are the subject of so many "is it just me or are they shite and overhyped?" threads. They're barely hyped outside these boards, for a start, but moreover at the moment there's quite a few bands - Times New Viking, Fuck Buttons, No Age - whose sound you'd imagine as an oustider would be more instantly polarising yet do get endless threads about their greatness without anywhere near the poster backlash JoFo get.

    • I think it's partly due to them being British too.

      And an element of "why couldn't it be me doing this? Bollocks, I have to revise for my A Levels/go to a rubbish job. I hate them".

      • has JoFo <(sorry) quit their day jobs?

        : )

  • Alexei

    My hat's off to you for posting on this thread. I've not heard your music so I can't add to the debate but I have to tell you that I have discussed this with some notable artists who admitted that they couldn't bear to even look at music forums let alone post on them and more especially add to a discussion about themselves! You are amazing for that if nothing else.

    • LOL

    • meh...

      we have been hyped on DiS, compared to the real world. someone on here came up with "jofo", someone else gave our ep a perfect score, and just before the album came out there was like, 2 threads a week, about gigs and leaks and stuff.

      it was (and still is) incredibly flattering but we have no control over any of it, and outside of these boards, it doesn't make much difference

      and i dont really see whats to be scared of. some people on a music discussion board don't like our music. WOW! and some of them remind me of that ben elton musical where everybodies forced to take pills that make them like queen BUT the pills dont work on a few good looking young rebels.

      i just want that guy who said we sound like bis to elaborate.

      xalexei

      • YEAH

        i want him to elaborate too, and if he doesn't you should kick him up the arse.

      • ooooooooo

        i got that queen plot bare wrong.

      • ooooooooo

        i got that queen plot bare wrong.

      • good looking rebels you say?

      • RE Bis, I dunno really.

        Just reminds me of it. That amazing 'Candy Pop' one. I reckon that new Beck one, 'Orphans' sounds like Carly Simon, so feel free to ignore me. Eye of the beholder and all that...

  • They're probably the best band in the country at the moment

    What are people rating them as? Best band in the world? Then yeah, maybe a bit overrated.

    • you probably shouldn't use hyperbole in this thread

      also: dananananackroyd obvz

      • Your opinion of JoFo

        was rendered void long ago.

        • hahaha what did i do?

          • I can't remember

            Said you didn't like them or something.

            • oh no, i don't like them or anything

              but we shouldn't be rounding on our own. it's true that we are exosed to them a lot, but it doesn't bother me. dananananackroyd though, CORRR

      • yeah

        dananananaykroyd are the best british band around right now.

  • Well, she does have kinda a fat ass

    but I'm Just Jenny from the Block = TUNE, obv.

    • You're English.

      Don't sing in an American accent.

      Simple.

      • oceanRain's definitely American.

        • idk

          he might secretly be a scouser, its possible

  • i think they are wonderful

    and they are first modern british band to get me very excited for a long time. so personally i don't think they're overrated especially as they don't really get that much publicity apart from here. if anything i believe they are underrated because i think their album deserved a 9/10 instead of an 8/10. but there you go. just my opinion.

    • this band

      makes me feel really old. like, not down with the kids. they aren't the worst band in the world, but like, i listen to that bands they listen to and i see kids like them everyday (i probably see them everyday, they're from birmingham aren't they?), so i dunno, i feel like it's not so special to me. it's great if the kids like it, although i read an interview i think were they said they didn't like black sabbath (if they are from birmingham then that's unforgivable.)

      that los campos or whatever though, i'm not cool with that shit. they're like, the same age as me. i know what they're about. we were the same kids. we played with the same toys and watched the same shows. there's no way they could be so... uncool. it's not natural.

      • What on earth are you gibbering on about?

        • "it's great if the kids like it"

          "although i read an interview i think were they said they didn't like black sabbath"

  • I've listened to them a few times on last.fm

    and although they're by no means repellent, their stuff really doesn't grab me as anything special. I almost saw them live once, but turned up too late to see them. I don't get the attraction...

  • JoFo overrated?

    yes, ironically mainly by DiS. Rest of the world gives a fuck.

    • rest of the world...

      ...gives them good reviews, too.

      difference with DiS is that we've a community, and lots of active members of this community like JoFo a lot.

      so their name, inevitably, features often and prominently regardless of editorial coverage of the band.

      their album got an 8/10 here... that's less than it got in the fly and rock sound, to name two. it's an ace-ace record, but not OMGWOWAMAZINGLOL... that'll be album two.

      then you can take all yr haterz vibez and shovel them.

      • by rest of the world

        I did indeed mean me.

  • i only recently got into these

    and really enjoyed their album, and suddenly it's uncool to like them
    :o FUCK

  • I like the little characters

    they adorn their new video and record sleeve with, but i'm nonplussed and indifferent when it comes to their material.

    I stumbled upon the video in question on NME TV during a brief televisual surf(shudder), so major musical distribution channels and commercial networks would appear to taking notice.

  • I love this band

    I just wish they'd play Cambridge more. Perhaps... every day, maybe. Or just for them to set up in the corner of my living room and play non-stop. I'd give them free gin in return.

    Also, I hate these threads. Go and start a positive one, now.

    ...I've had a little to drink, forgive me.

    • Why

      isn't Cambridge on the new tour? Is it 'cos of the Barfly? Waah...

  • i'm really starting to hate the word overrated

    no one has ever said the word overrated = shit.

    i think it's definately fair enough to call them overrated on here, and that's coming from someone that absolutely bums the ep/album/live shows/t-shirt i own.

    having 3 threads a day made about you for the last six months would make the best band in the world overrated

    this thread has stupid reasoning.

    • ok then Johhny Foreigner are absolute DOG SHIT

      and I fucking hate their music and them and cannot understand why they exist. Satisfied?

  • meh

    they deserve good press. saw them recently- loved it.

    • ^ yep

      saw them recently and loved them too. Great band, nice and genuine people. Fuck Buttons, now there is an overrated band....

      • Both FB and JoFo are grand.

        Lovely people making music because that's what makes them happiest.

  • WHOA

    this post has gone out of control. Pretty much expected it to die straight away.

    Cant be arsed to read this, but I still hold that "JoFo" are shit and are rated (i.e. thought of ) too highly mainly on these boards.

    Dont care if other people like them, but maybe you could talk about them less??? cheers matez

    • No.

      Fuck Buttons, Dirty Projectors & Why? are shit. Not JoFo.

      • American accent

        sounds total brummie to me

    • "Talk about them less" he says 112 posts into his thread

    • ahem

      (you started it)

    • maybe you could post here less???