I check Pitchfork quite often, there are some reviews that I think are spot on, whereas others make me want to rip out my eyeballs. Such as:
ATDI - Relationship of Command. 6.1/10
The review is written in the style of a fictional debate between George Bush and Al Gore. The reviewer is so far up his own arse he is using his nipples as peep holes.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/15082-relationship-of-command
Roots Manuva:
High score for album, but the reviewer makes sure we know that the Beatles, Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin nicked everything they know off the Americans, saying we turned American music into "moneymaking" music with these bands.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/19707-brand-new-secondhand
Spiritualized, Songs in A&E
This reviewer writes an utterly overindulgent 200 words on his time in a hospital, and then ever so tenuously links this in with the album review
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/21964-let-it-come-down
Muse - Black Holes & Revelations 4.2/10
Don't get me started
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/37142-black-holes-and-revelations
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Reviews themselves are pretty much redundant these days.
I just look at the score, then download it it and listen for myself. If I like it, I buy it.
^ This
But what about
all those albums that have a low score, because the reviewer doesn't share your musical taste one bit? Are you just gonna let those ones pass by? Or are you going to give it them chance, then tell the reviewer that if his ears were eyes, he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Jessica Alba and Sally Gunnel?
Jessica Alba and Sally Gunnel
titter
oh my god
music journalists actually try to be creative, subjective, personal, honest, intelligent instead of spouting out the same tired cliches. HOW DARE THEY ACTUALLY TRY TO USE THEIR INTELLECT TO ANALYSE MUSIC INSTEAD OF SAYING SOMETHING SOUNDS LIKE GRIZZLY BEAR REMIXED BY THE KNIFE!?!?!!
SERIOUSLY.
FUCK
OFF
More like
a load of over zealous attempts at making their reviews cutting edge and utterly unique, whereas instead they pull off the grand feat of turning them into side projects to talk about their frivolous uninteresting lives that no one wants to hear about.
Like I said, there are some great reviews on that website, but there are also some infuriatingly shite ones. You act like I said I hated the whole site.
Plus, there is no need for the lambastation you provide Massacre. Prick
I want to know about their lives!
i wanna know what the music means to them. And it might be something horrifically pretentious, it might be a youtube video of a monkey pissing in its mouth but at least it's always interesting!
surely a reaction is what they want to provoke though?
so to be suprised about someone thinking they are being provocative wankers is a bit strange
sort of
begrudgingly agree with this... if reviewers just mindlessly talked about how, as you say stuff sounded like stuff and occasionally some other stuff and oh the chord changes etcetc... it would be so dull. Though I really disagree with the ATDI review, which is why I agree begrudingly, because occasionally reviewers can try so hard to be weird and interesting that they comprimise the actual quality of the review/accuracy of the review (ATDI??? come on RoC is one of the most incredible things on the planet.)
Yeah, that Muse one is
far too gentle. They should have done the wanking monkey again.
That was great
was that for a Jet album?
Yeah
their second album
never seen that atd-i review
i actually quite like the style, it's pretty readable and fun. good to have a break from the "LIKE OASIS BEATING UP NIRVANA ON SPEED!" reviews, anyway.
The Roots Manuva
one is the worst. Infuriating.
the only pitchfork review
ive ever got pissed off with, is their review for the boy with the arab strap.
because they gave it something utterly moronic like 0.8, i cant remember what rating exactly.
other than that. i cant fault them
That review was also terribly written.
To Be Fair
Pitchfork reviews have improved in the past two years or so - you don't get anything near as bad as that ROC review cropping up. Certain writers have different styles (although I don't thing there's one Pitchfork staffer who actually does track-by-track reviews).
What annoys me about PF is that their scores never seem to match up with what is written. Take the recent review for Narrow Stairs - they give it a 6, but the review is not overly critical, unlike other reviews where the score is higher. I don't know how they work out the scores, but they need to standardize them or something.
To be fair
The Stones and Led Zeppelin did basically steal a whole bunch of American music and then made it commercially palatable so I fail to see your point there. That ATD-I one is refreshing, given that everyone was sucked in by the OMGZ THEY'RE THE BEST THING EVER hype. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that Muse review.
The only one I would criticise is the Songs In A&E one, if only because Jason's said that most of the record was written before he went into hospital.
I suppose
after you read Rolling Stone these days, Pitchfork is a lot to feel grateful for, but with ATDI I feel the appraisal from most magazines was justified, though the hype was excessive.
With the Muse review, I'd never thought much of them until this album. The production is brilliant, and the songs are well crafted. I think it shows a great lack of insight to judge the band as crap for being a "pompous stadium rock" group. Of course its stadium rock, but with this reviewer that automatically makes it shit.
Not really
He says pompous stadium rock can be "ridiculously fun to listen to." He criticises the album for being "the band's most autopiloted effort yet, a hacked-up last-gen rehash of said space jams, only now with greater emphasis on glitz and glam."
Not really though,
The beginning of the sentence you quote states "It's the kind of deep-fried, flash-frozen crud..." He's pretty much likening it to a spam fritter.
It's not for Songs In A&E!
The review is of Let it Come Down! Wake Up!
You're right there,
i made a mistake
Reviews = Redundant
Nobody cares about reviews.
oh
come now
blimey
don't ever read CokeMachineGlow. You'll burst with anger.
CMG has disappeared so far up its own arse
it's not even funny. A lot of it verges on utter incomprehensibility.
I hate them!
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/45812-go-go-smear-the-poison-ivy
So what's wrong with that review
other than the fact that I assume you like Mum and therefore disagree with the score?
Well, yes.
So it's not actually a bad review then, is it?
Well, after giving praise to a number of songs
Which would make for a 7 or 8/10 review, he comments at the end 'this is certainly not a good record' COMPLETELY contradicting everything he said before, and continues to list múm's flaws, some of which aren't even about that album, despite the fact he realised that múm sound 'noticeably different' at the start of the review. It's incredibly confusing, and rather than telling people his view, he seems to speak of two different views - which makes for a rather indecisive review.
Fair enough
I think that's more to do with the correlation between final score and review content, which someone mentioned above. That's ultimately an editorial decision, so it could well have been that the guy gave the album a 6.5 or 7 or whatever and it's been marked down during the editing process. I reckon the discrepancy between the tone of reviews and final scores on Pitchfork is probably a fair criticism in a few cases.
Pitchfork does give very uneven reviews
I usually never go on the site, but múm is such a little-reviewed band , why even on DiS their single wasn't reviewed
They
hate the mars volta,
Always giving there albums bad reviews ><
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/search/record_reviews/query?query%5Bartist%5D=The+Mars+Volta&query%5Btitle%5D=&query%5Brecord_label%5D=&query%5Bauthor%5D=&query%5Bkeywords%5D=&query%5Bmin_score%5D=&query%5Bmax_score%5D=&x=0&y=0
*cough*
With the Mars Volta
I think they are correct, excluding De-loused with their low ratings though a little too harsh.
I find it ironic though, that they basically seem to slate Mars Volta because of their overindulgent wankyness.
their mars volta reviews
just get me all pissed off!
especially since A Manual Dexterity scored higher than all of their LPs proper :(
All of them because the whole site is a massive self-absorbed bag of wank
Did anyone ever read the review of
12 Rods - 'Separation Anxieties'?
As Bernard Manning would say... " It's a fucking disgrace" ;)
it's only fair..
..they did give their first LP a 10.0, even though it was utterly unremarkable mishmash of weezer covering new order. see what i did there lol
A couple of truly terrible reviews for your perusal
http://stylusmagazine.com/reviews/okkervil-river/the-stage-names.htm
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/4276
Brilliant.
That Animal Collective review is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've ever read. It also neatly sums up why I fucking HATE the band and the sort of hyperbolous crap that their admirers tend to spout.
They really are ridiculously awful
^^ amen! at fucking last!
they are truly terrible, here's a brief review of their last album by me:
"like a walkman playing Pet Sounds glued to the bottom of a metal pot for that reverby effect"
9/10 album reviews are pointless.
I don't want to read a 500 word essay on a record, i don't have the time. Just tell me a) if it's good or not & b) who it sounds a bit like. There's no need to talk downright shite about yourself, bands of the same genre from ninety years ago or any other twaddle. They should never be creative personal intellectual essays but short and to the point. Most music writers are idiots and use the only platform they have in life to make themselves look bigger at other people expense. Fuck 'em.
their worst one was
The Flaming Lips review of Zaireeka. Not because it got given a 0.0, but because they completly dismissed writing about the music at all in favour of writing about how much they disliked the 4 cd format
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/17746-zaireeka
To be fair
the same reviewer went and gave The Soft Bulletin 10 out of 10 when they reviewed it.
the lost riots
because they pan it and are completely wrong. and, in the other diection, they gave an Iran album 9.something. so i listened to it and it was one of the worst pieces of tune-todging bollocks that i have ever heard. a load of talentless cunts making noise for people who misguidedly think they are cleverer than i am.
Not a Pitchfork review but still bemusing
http://www.cokemachineglow.com/record_review/3542/titus-andronicus-grievances-2008
I'll retract that if people don't think it's a load of bollocks mind
jesus christ
fuck those people
I'm inclined not to agree
when people cuss a website for disagreeing with their tastes. Don't take it as a personal affront to you just because that writer has an outlet and you don't (this isn't aimed so much at the thread started, obv).
But then again, a writer has to work hard to get their stuff onto a site like Pfuck; there's a good chance that one of their writers will have a substantially more interesting and persuasive opinion than some random person off of a messageboard or the street.
The question isn't do you like it: do you still go back and read it every now and then?
Yes, I do read it very often,
I share a love/hate relationship with Pitchfork, as many reviews are brilliant, but it doesn't stop some infuriating me
metallica - st. anger
hands up who gave up after the first paragraph?
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/19856-st-anger
Hahaha,
that review is a joke.
I mostly don't bother reading
but I remember the Ted Leo Shake the Sheets review being a bit naff
"You find yourself strangely aggravated by Leo's characteristic punk-scat; especially unforgivable is a Jacko-like "shebooyah" in "Walking to Do"."
Characteristic punk-scat.
Plus Shibuya is a place you dumbarse reviewer type. Like all the other places he mentions around that time in the song.
I don't know which jet review is better.
the wanking monkey or this one:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/18954-get-born
the get born one
had me in tears! seriously, one of the funniest things I've yet to read.
because I HATE Jet.
that review was a bit of a piss take..
..even though i despise jet and would never touch anything they've done. pitchfork's review of louis xiv's debut is similar, but slightly more interesting.
i don't read them anymore.
friends opinions tend to be more reliable.
It's not a Pitchfork review
but OMM's review of Sigur Ros' new album was infuriating, a too much hyperbolic waffle about the Icelandic, and very little about the album.
the Dandy Warhols
first few records got trashed because the band themselves are wannabe hipsters...which shouldn't have detracted from being really good records.
Then the Dandys had the bad form to go and put out a couple stinkers which justified PF's position.....
still haven't got around to new one yet.
THE most infuriating album review of all time, BAR NONE
comes from Stylus, on OLTA
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/interpol/our-love-to-admire.htm
Just because of this review, I'm glad Stylus got shut down.
I thought it was an
undisputed fact that since TOTBL Interpol have been dreadful?
On DiS
that hypothesis causes endless arguments.
i can't argue too much with that review...
though the record itself was miles ahead of Antics, whose blandness kept me from trying out TOTBL for about two years.
at least...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/pitchfork_gives_music_6_8
The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute (2.something/10)
I think they're pretty bang on with their At The Drive-In and Muse reviews, though.
more to the point...
what scores annoy you on this website?
What a bunch of cunts.
The recent National EP got 4.3. The Portishead album got 8.8. They're fucking dullards who give things scores to make a point. No-one in their right mind could give that EP a score like that, fuck the records before it.
there's some awful reviews on there
but the writing standard is much better than here still...
also
that Muse review is great
'give things scores to make a point'
woah, new thinking there
I like Pitchfork most of the time
But the review of Do You Like Rock Music pissed me off. Well, mainly the 'U2' rating. It seemed overly dismissive rather than clever.
Pitchfork's inconsistency
pisses me off. I'm sure Relationship of Command ended up in the upper reaches of on of their best of lists. Someone reviews something then it becomes clear that they boobed and all the rest of the writers try to undo it without having the balls to go back and change it. I'm not saying reviewers have to fully tow the party line of the site but you can't have total black/white disagreements.