I've paid £45 to see Grace Jones next week (dont laugh you cunts) but that's in the Royal Festival Hall which will be amazing. I'm not paying similar for Radiohead in a huge field with crap sound.
i havent seen them and i would love to go but im just not going to pay £40.and exactly what you said.fair enough if it was maybe an all day thing with ace bands but 1 support is poo
i obviously don't know the arrangements this time around but when they played in victoria park in 2000 they did it in a marquee and the sound was fantastic.
That Radiohead are probably still (haven't seen 'em for a little while) the best live band in the world. So if you're going to pay £50 for a headline band ticket, which seems to be the going rate these days, at least they are the very, very best of the bunch.
I've got Sigur Ros on 24th, they're doing the 25th too, right?
As it's right in front of my flat, I might just wait til they've started their set and get a ticket off a tout for cheapy cheap - would that work?
I paid £40/45 to see The Cure in March - but in a venue that I knew would have decent enough sound guaranteed, with support that I knew and liked, and I knew I was guaranteed a set list of a good 2.5 hours because they're always generous with their set lists.
The uncertainties:-
1. The venue/sound; if they DON'T put it in a tent, it could be awful, like field day.
2. The support - Bats for Lashes, sure she's cute enough, but can she hold a massive crowd? And what's she going to be like if it is all open air?
3. The weather.
Basically, too many variables. I'm guessing it's £57 inc booking fees, and I don't splurge my money on unsure bets, cheers.
Considering how much of a rip off £25 was to see the Jesus & Mary Chain. Which lead to the cancelling of one of the two gigs they had booked for the roundhouse.
how i cant seem to comment on other bands without people arguing that my only reason for it must be that i work for another promoter.
anyway, the comment from someone else that around £50 is the expected price for a top of the range band is ludicrous, there's been a clear increase across the board from certain bands in the past year or so that is nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with working out that certain people will pay inflated prices and fuck people who can't afford them. pretty sad really.
The feeling seems to be that your gloating about Radiohead not selling out. Some people find this strange as your events often don't sell out. JAMC is a case in point.
was to talk about the inflated price issue a bit, as i was really surprised that this hadnt sold out, and what with all the festival cancellations recently too maybe it shows that people arent really willing to fork out that much.
i also like to have a pop at radiohead's arrogance so this is an easy way to do it :D
£25 is a fair bit cheaper than £52 but i take your point.
i paid £95 to go to ATP in 2003, i also paid £25 to see radiohead in victoria park.
come 2008, if i wanted to go to ATP i'd have to pay £160, an increase of around 168%. if i wanted to see radiohead in victoria park, i'd have to pay £42.50, an increase of around 170%.
the early bird tickets, so £150, and its £50 for radiohead all in, thus increases of around:
100% for radiohead
50% for atp
and regardless of increases, when you actually look what you get for your cash, the point is in this case you choose between 2 bands for £50 or 40+ bands plus accomodation plus lots of facilities for £150.
i'm taking issue with your insistence that radiohead are over deliberately fucking people over above natural inflation in a "sad" way, as both ATP and radiohead are offering roughly the same thing 5 years later - and both have had similar price increases.
isnt the implication that radiohead are deliberately trying to "fuck people" presumptious?
it looks more likely that putting on a show in the way radiohead want - including, for example, their green standards - is an expensive business in a park in london, surely.
isnt this reflected in the way that manchester and glasgow tickets appear to be cheaper (certainly the manchester tickets are cheaper than REM a month later), because they're in more purpose-built venues. if their sole intent was on deliberately "fucking" people, why dont they whack the prices up for those a bit more? that doesnt make business sense.
is the same price as London (£42.50). Glasgow is slightly cheaper (£38.50) and, like London, not in a purpose-built venue.
Ticket prices are set to maximise revenue, so it is better to sell only 20,000 tickets at £42.50 (revenue = £850,000) than sell 30,000 at £25 (revenue = £750,000) even if that means the venue will only be 2/3 full.
is not being promoted by a 'big ' promoter ( a live nation) etc...i would imagine that, given the security costs. stage/ electricity/ etc costs will be high. Factor in I doubt there will be big beer sponsorship etc i think thats about right. If its only gone up about a £10er since southpark.....fair enough. that was a LONG time ago.
Springsteen, Waits, Bjork, Young, hell even Allison Krauss and Robert Plant- all these tickets came in way over £40.... Even my nick cave ticket with book fee too boot cost about 32 quid and that was with the god awful barry adamson supporting.....in an established venue....
The addition of ludicrously high booking fees should be looked at but to be fair, for a big event like that and the management it would take to run, i think thats about fair. Try going to a theatre, or the ballet, or something like that, If you want to see someone considered to be among the 'stars' of their type then £40 doesnt seem to bad.
In general, however, for smaller bands anything over £12 feels a bit much...id rather cheaper tickets and then buy merch/cds off them to reward a good show...
fair enough.....it still does cost a lot to put on a show of that scale tho.....42 quidi si the same i paid to see bjork. im seeing them in denmark anyway
and then realised that it was ridiculous and needed the money. Waste said they had already beeen dispatched so I couldn't get a refund and would have to sell them independantly, but they didn't arrive for another 3 weeks so they were talking crap. Now they're going for about £20 max on ebay
I would imagine a fair few people who will be there would have gone to see them if it was at another time.
The price is about £42.50 in london plus fee, not £52. This is still a lot and the prices do seem to have shot up £10/15 in the past year for the big names, but it can still be worth it. The £40/45 I spent for Bjork was much better value than seeing three ok bands for £15.
The price is a bit steep but hopefully it should be worth it. Having said that I'm paying 60 quid to go to lovebox just because the Flaming Lips are headlining so I probably do have more money than sense.
iv never seen them, and they have given me inspiration and good times for many many years, so was happy to pay that much.. and i also really like bat for lashes so really its a bargain as far as im concerned
bought my tickets months ago as well, now my flatmate's trying to get tickets and apparently ebay is full of them much cheaper than their official price. Grrr.
this weekend in France, in an ampitheatre, so im not to bothered as the weather will be awesome and the sound should be great. Overseas gigs are the way forward if you can afford it, but i wouldnt pay £45 to see them play some armpit in London
i thought about not going. But I've never seen them live before and they're one of my favourite bands and I might not get to see them again if I don't this time (I assume they're eventually going to stop touring altogether to save emissions and just record). So there's my two cents.
neither is manchester i dont think
40 quid for a gig is ridiculous
£52 in london plus fee
with one average support.
compared to last time its a joke.
Is there actually only one support then?
Just ye olde Batty for Lashies?
^^^ this
think so yes
plus victoria park = changes of bad/quiet sound?
Quite
I've paid £45 to see Grace Jones next week (dont laugh you cunts) but that's in the Royal Festival Hall which will be amazing. I'm not paying similar for Radiohead in a huge field with crap sound.
I'm trying my best
CUNT
I haven't laughed yet!
YET.
i've had a low level
laugh going for the last few months since i found out about it
sort of like a
'hur hur hur hur'?
yes
almost inaudible but always there, forever.
Mine is more like Mutley.
Can you spell that?
Kh-kh-kh! is my stab
really is
i havent seen them and i would love to go but im just not going to pay £40.and exactly what you said.fair enough if it was maybe an all day thing with ace bands but 1 support is poo
Like this you mean?
http://drownedinsound.com/event/view/36785
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parc del forum! i miss it
you twat :P
there are two supports
i obviously don't know the arrangements this time around but when they played in victoria park in 2000 they did it in a marquee and the sound was fantastic.
but it was enclosed
having said that
they were fantastic at south park too
yep
as i said. and nobody knows what the set up will be this year.
Too expensive.
I saw them a couple of years ago in Edinburgh, which was 35 buckaroos, but Beck was the support for that.
It remains the most expensive gig i've ever been to by quite a long shot, and i've been to 200 odd, so i'm no way not paying 45 quid
I'm sure they'd still be amazing live in a small place
but in Victoria Park, Tuesday evening, crap sound, probably raining or something, £50+. Just doesn't seem that appealing.
An all-day fest with a quality line-up on a Saturday like they did in Oxford seven years ago would have been much more appealing at that price.
In South Park?
What a gig that was... Beck/Supergrass/Sigur Ros supporting wasn't it?
yes
that's the one. it was awesome and Radiohead were on fire. Was that the last time they played 'Creep'?
they played Creep when i saw them in 2006
No
They played creep at V in 2006
RADIOHEAD PLAYED V FESTIVAL
REMEMBER THIS
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY
And Earl's Court
2004
:(
I've got a spare for the Wednesday if anyone wants to come with me.
well if its freeeeeeee
;-)
'fraid not
i'd swap a my bloody v ticket though
I can't even remember what night I'm going
ROB? What night are we going?
and
it will be ace. I am sure of it. It's Radiohead!
they dont have toilets or food
there apparently, you have to shit on the floor, pick it up, use it as manure on an organic potato and grow it yourself. for £20.
Bargain
I'm getting a private jumbo jet there anyway.
if I went to this
I'd travel to Victoria Park in a hot air balloon.
Rob r going on the tuesday
I could be tempted.
I still haven't seen Radiohead. I need to remedy this. Possibly.
I think you should
if you have a spare £45 lying around.
This may be today's big issue.
When is this anyway?
Wednesday June 25th
Because the ticket price being silly
and the support being average.
I'm going as well. YAY!
I would pay that amount
but I don't really like Radiohead.
Cheers
there's still tickets for Glasgow
Mainly due to the price I assume.
But anyways, it'll be fucking immense and if they get Liars to continue touring with them then I'll be a happy bunny.
There's a hour long gig on youtube I recommend you all check out to get yourselves in the mood.
Don't forget
That Radiohead are probably still (haven't seen 'em for a little while) the best live band in the world. So if you're going to pay £50 for a headline band ticket, which seems to be the going rate these days, at least they are the very, very best of the bunch.
Apart from Springsteen.
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Neil Young?
Neil Young was more like £70
For the cheap seats at that
but he's better than radiohead
exactly
around twenty times better
don't get me wrong
I love Radiohead, but no way are they the best live band in the world...not have they ever been.
Have all
the ATP promoted events sold out then Jamie ?
Dick suck.
ONE PEG LOWER.
About bloody time.
Coming on here talking about music he likes and stuff with everyone else. What an arsehole.
In other news: I'm going to see Radiohead on the 25th and I'm mighty excited about it.
i think they have
they even get Alexander 'shitting' Tucker a big crowd
damn, zinged so hard!
i'd better go listen to pop is dead and reconsider my evil hasty words
What is the TOTAL cost the Jamie?
I've got Sigur Ros on 24th, they're doing the 25th too, right?
As it's right in front of my flat, I might just wait til they've started their set and get a ticket off a tout for cheapy cheap - would that work?
"the Jamie?"
well that's a new one :\
Are we actually living in 2008?
The price for almost all top of the range acts these days is anywhere between £35 to £60+.
Just because you all got the album for nothing doesn't mean you don't get to pay the going rate for Radiohead live.
Oh of course.
I paid £40/45 to see The Cure in March - but in a venue that I knew would have decent enough sound guaranteed, with support that I knew and liked, and I knew I was guaranteed a set list of a good 2.5 hours because they're always generous with their set lists.
The uncertainties:-
1. The venue/sound; if they DON'T put it in a tent, it could be awful, like field day.
2. The support - Bats for Lashes, sure she's cute enough, but can she hold a massive crowd? And what's she going to be like if it is all open air?
3. The weather.
Basically, too many variables. I'm guessing it's £57 inc booking fees, and I don't splurge my money on unsure bets, cheers.
I find this thread very interesting:
Considering how much of a rip off £25 was to see the Jesus & Mary Chain. Which lead to the cancelling of one of the two gigs they had booked for the roundhouse.
Considering
I have paid £40 a few times this year to watch Derby County lose, Radiohead doesn't seem much of a rip off.
well said
that man, that woman, that lovelessrapture.
One promoter/promoters assistant gloating over the lack of sales of another is bound to end up with egg on his face.
slightly annoying
how i cant seem to comment on other bands without people arguing that my only reason for it must be that i work for another promoter.
anyway, the comment from someone else that around £50 is the expected price for a top of the range band is ludicrous, there's been a clear increase across the board from certain bands in the past year or so that is nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with working out that certain people will pay inflated prices and fuck people who can't afford them. pretty sad really.
Yep
I agree. It's not just the music industry that is doing this either. Hello premiership football clubs!
I'm not sure
anyone has said that.
The feeling seems to be that your gloating about Radiohead not selling out. Some people find this strange as your events often don't sell out. JAMC is a case in point.
A bit of humility i think, that's all.
the reason i made the post
was to talk about the inflated price issue a bit, as i was really surprised that this hadnt sold out, and what with all the festival cancellations recently too maybe it shows that people arent really willing to fork out that much.
i also like to have a pop at radiohead's arrogance so this is an easy way to do it :D
£25 is a fair bit cheaper than £52 but i take your point.
about inflation
i paid £95 to go to ATP in 2003, i also paid £25 to see radiohead in victoria park.
come 2008, if i wanted to go to ATP i'd have to pay £160, an increase of around 168%. if i wanted to see radiohead in victoria park, i'd have to pay £42.50, an increase of around 170%.
matches up, inflation-wise, pretty much.
those are increases of 68% and 70%
plus we're offering
the early bird tickets, so £150, and its £50 for radiohead all in, thus increases of around:
100% for radiohead
50% for atp
and regardless of increases, when you actually look what you get for your cash, the point is in this case you choose between 2 bands for £50 or 40+ bands plus accomodation plus lots of facilities for £150.
how much of that £150
goes towards you contributing 34,000 + posts to this website ?
most of it
i'm not comparing one with the other
obviously, ATP is far better value for money.
i'm taking issue with your insistence that radiohead are over deliberately fucking people over above natural inflation in a "sad" way, as both ATP and radiohead are offering roughly the same thing 5 years later - and both have had similar price increases.
nope
£25 and £42.50 were face value ticket prices for radiohead, so you cant add on £7.50 of booking fees to make the numbers work more in your favour.
hmm
isnt the implication that radiohead are deliberately trying to "fuck people" presumptious?
it looks more likely that putting on a show in the way radiohead want - including, for example, their green standards - is an expensive business in a park in london, surely.
isnt this reflected in the way that manchester and glasgow tickets appear to be cheaper (certainly the manchester tickets are cheaper than REM a month later), because they're in more purpose-built venues. if their sole intent was on deliberately "fucking" people, why dont they whack the prices up for those a bit more? that doesnt make business sense.
Manchester show
is the same price as London (£42.50). Glasgow is slightly cheaper (£38.50) and, like London, not in a purpose-built venue.
Ticket prices are set to maximise revenue, so it is better to sell only 20,000 tickets at £42.50 (revenue = £850,000) than sell 30,000 at £25 (revenue = £750,000) even if that means the venue will only be 2/3 full.
"top of the range" ???
That price is a joke!
i'd never pay over £15 for a gig these days, and even then they'd have to be extra special good.
as i would imagine that this show
is not being promoted by a 'big ' promoter ( a live nation) etc...i would imagine that, given the security costs. stage/ electricity/ etc costs will be high. Factor in I doubt there will be big beer sponsorship etc i think thats about right. If its only gone up about a £10er since southpark.....fair enough. that was a LONG time ago.
Springsteen, Waits, Bjork, Young, hell even Allison Krauss and Robert Plant- all these tickets came in way over £40.... Even my nick cave ticket with book fee too boot cost about 32 quid and that was with the god awful barry adamson supporting.....in an established venue....
The addition of ludicrously high booking fees should be looked at but to be fair, for a big event like that and the management it would take to run, i think thats about fair. Try going to a theatre, or the ballet, or something like that, If you want to see someone considered to be among the 'stars' of their type then £40 doesnt seem to bad.
In general, however, for smaller bands anything over £12 feels a bit much...id rather cheaper tickets and then buy merch/cds off them to reward a good show...
This gig
is promoted by SJM Concerts, one of the country's biggest tour/gig companies ...
aboynamedgoo
fair enough.....it still does cost a lot to put on a show of that scale tho.....42 quidi si the same i paid to see bjork. im seeing them in denmark anyway
'Creep' is in the top 40 this week.
i just wanted to mention that.
I paid about 50
and then realised that it was ridiculous and needed the money. Waste said they had already beeen dispatched so I couldn't get a refund and would have to sell them independantly, but they didn't arrive for another 3 weeks so they were talking crap. Now they're going for about £20 max on ebay
total cry
Doesn't help putting them on at the same time as Glastonbury either
I would imagine a fair few people who will be there would have gone to see them if it was at another time.
The price is about £42.50 in london plus fee, not £52. This is still a lot and the prices do seem to have shot up £10/15 in the past year for the big names, but it can still be worth it. The £40/45 I spent for Bjork was much better value than seeing three ok bands for £15.
sorry i meant the 52
was including fees.
I'm going
The price is a bit steep but hopefully it should be worth it. Having said that I'm paying 60 quid to go to lovebox just because the Flaming Lips are headlining so I probably do have more money than sense.
they are poo
thats the obvious reason
^
Correct.
lol
well im going
iv never seen them, and they have given me inspiration and good times for many many years, so was happy to pay that much.. and i also really like bat for lashes so really its a bargain as far as im concerned
my Manchester ticket came today
excited!
glasgow isn't either
bought my tickets months ago as well, now my flatmate's trying to get tickets and apparently ebay is full of them much cheaper than their official price. Grrr.
I thought
MGMT were supporting as well?
Im going to see them
this weekend in France, in an ampitheatre, so im not to bothered as the weather will be awesome and the sound should be great. Overseas gigs are the way forward if you can afford it, but i wouldnt pay £45 to see them play some armpit in London
I'm going
i thought about not going. But I've never seen them live before and they're one of my favourite bands and I might not get to see them again if I don't this time (I assume they're eventually going to stop touring altogether to save emissions and just record). So there's my two cents.
my thoughts entirely.
never seen them, and this may or may not be the last time before they are considered dinosaurs.
40 quid isn't great, but its not the end of the world.
get over it.
MGMT
are supporting in Manchester only I think
Perhaps
A lot of people are only interested in them when it's free?
I think their PR is more interesting than their music these days.
Ohhh,
zing.
Well, feel for us poor people that have to buy ours AND our girlfriends. Life is not kind to nice people...
In my opinion, '15 Step' and 'What's a Girl to do?' are worth the entry price alone.
Tickets came today!
I expect them to something a bit more 'out there' on the 25th rather than the 24th... might even pull out Creep.
Heaven forbid I get to hear 'Optimistic' live
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