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My Bloody Valentine: peer pressure from five potential successors

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by Mike Diver

There’s no doubt that My Bloody Valentine’s impression on the modern musical landscape was significant back in 1991 when Loveless became the benchmark for all other releases categorised as shoegaze, and their impending return must have contemporary purveyors of the movement worrying for their live future: after all, who needs the deputy when the sheriff rolls back into town?

Yet there are exceptions, acts whose furrows have been carved in a particular tradition, but who take the MBV blueprint and add their own twists. Here, ahead of MBV’s comeback shows at London’s ICA this weekend and the re-issuing of both Loveless and 1988’s Isn’t Anything on Monday June 16, DiS offers forth five influenced acts who’re well worth their place in a world blessed, again, by the masters of slow-drone high-distortion rock. On their own merits they stand, parallels apparent but characteristics singular ensuring they, too, could one day be held in as high regard.

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Silversun Pickups
Los Angeles’ Silversun Pickups obviously own more than a couple of copies of Loveless between their members, but that’s not stopped them making their own way through the modern-day critical minefield, with many a plaudit coming their way around the release of their debut album proper Carnavas. While not everybody was sold in 2006, their second LP (release details TBA) should solidify their huge stateside fanbase and provide a platform from which to tackle Europe properly – although they’ve toured the continent with Kaiser Chiefs, the foursome haven’t yet made the inroads on this side of the Atlantic that they’ve achieved in their homeland, where singles such as ‘Lazy Eye’ and ‘Well Thought Out Twinkles’ have broken into the top ten of Billboard’s Modern Rock chart. Already a considerable MySpace attraction with over four million profile views, chances are Silversun Pickups could be the ‘new My Bloody Valentine’ that actually translates their acclaim into long-term commercial success; that their material can also echo the work of Smashing Pumpkins is an indication of their arena potential.
MySpace

Video: ‘Well Thought Out Twinkles

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Deerhunter
Soon to release their third LP, the already-acclaimed (via the odd leak or two) Microcastle, Deerhunter take MBV’s most ambient drone and shackle it onto persistently eye-poking punk squall, attention-grabbing instrumental shrieks and possessed vocal chants. Live, the Atlanta five-piece can be a transcendental experience, frontman Bradford Cox a ringmaster of some surreal circus of aural thrills and spills; it’s worth noting, too, that the singer’s Atlas Sound solo project is also at least partially indebted to the work of a certain Kevin Shields. Cox has said that MBV are very much a defining influence on Deerhunter, whose time together has been peppered with tragedy and triumph since 2001; for newcomers, head to album two Cryptograms, reviewed here. Said we around its release: “A strangely heady brew, this; an album that knows not its place in high-street store racks, nor in the hearts of those that clasp it closest to their chests”. The same could well have been said about Loveless 17 years ago.
MySpace

Video: ‘Lake Somerset

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A Place To Bury Strangers
While New York’s A Place To Bury Strangers might not especially like the shoegaze tag they’ve acquired, as our recent DiScover interview makes clear, there’s no denying the MBV influence at work, even on propulsive tracks like ‘To Fix The Gash In Your Head’, ultimately coming on like Trent Reznor re-imagining Kevin Shields’ most-vicious material in an industrial nightmare (coincidentally they’re soon to play with Nine Inch Nails). That they’ve shared stages with the likes of The Jesus & Mary Chain, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and The Brian Jonestown Massacre gives the absolute beginner some idea of the audience they’re presently appealing to, but with industry praise coming at them from all corners it’s hard to envisage the trio not making a decent go of being a high-profile headline act in their own right over the coming months. Frequently referred to as NYC’s loudest band, little in their output to date suggests otherwise: if witnessed live, best take ear-plug precautions however hardened the senses.
MySpace

Video: ‘To Fix The Gash In Your Head

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Autolux
Back in 2004 no music critic could navigate through a publication of taste without some reference to this LA-based trio – their debut album Future Perfect (review) was a rumbling, disquieting collection of shoegaze tones and dramatic percussion. That record’s belated follow-up, Transit Transit, is scheduled for release later this year, and its makers recently played at the Primavera Sound festival in Barcelona. The new material DiS caught is definitely promising, but one must wonder if the wind’s rather slipped from the band’s sails, what with the gulf between LPs. You can hear one new offering, ‘Audience No. 2’, on their MySpace site. If their fanbase remains loyal and Transit Transit can attract wholly new admirers, the sophomore could finally turn Autolux into the considerable force 2004’s pen-pushing praise-merchants hoped they’d be long before now. If not, they’ll remain one of rock’s great never-quite-weres, a brilliant group content to take their time in a market that moves so fast it’s a wonder anyone can keep up.
MySpace

Video: ‘Turnstile Blues

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M83
Because shoegaze, as you know it, doesn’t always have to be about guitars that leave your ears ringing for days. French act M83 – now essentially Anthony Gonzales after Nicolas Fromageau left the group – combine definite MBV-echoing FX with charming electronic elements to create a sound that’s as at home on a club dancefloor as it is someone’s kitchen midway through a house-party comedown. Comfortable simply exploring ambient sound-sculpting avenues as he seemingly is concocting pop-infected indie-dance, Gonzales is a man of many talents within his field, with few LPs mirroring previous offerings. His latest, Saturdays = Youth, contains more than its share of MBV influences, with single ‘Graveyard Girl’ displaying such colours really rather well. While some of the above-profiled acts encase their material in a very specific darkness, M83’s summertime sounds offer listeners an alternative option to riding along with leather-clad demons on an expressway straight to the Earth’s core; this is music to shoot for the stars to.
MySpace

Video: ‘Don’t Save Us From The Flames

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DiScuss: There’s five to start you off. What other bands have carried the MBV torch in their absence, and which will be a force to be reckoned with themselves, despite our returning champions? Have American acts completely dominated shoegaze in recent years, or are there domestic acts around worth rating as highly as the above five? Just how excited are you about MBV’s ICA shows this Friday and Saturday? Will you be picking up the new version of Loveless?

Find My Bloody Valentine on MySpace here.



live is where it counts

I don't think that anyone can really stand up to My Bloody Valentine in terms of what they achieved albeit with more underground and a slow burning success.

My opinion is that My Vitriol were the closest thing to becoming a similar sounding band and were absolutely amazing to watch perform.

I think this is where people will realize how skilled MBV were/are. The opportunity for a new group of gig goers to actually see what really made them so credible by getting the opportunity to see how intensified their crafted sound was in a real time environment.


i really dont see

any comparison between silversun pickups and mbv at all.
what about ringo deathstarr? i know theyre very jamc like but i think they have strong elements of mbv too.


i agree

i think this feature is badly done. where are serena maneesh or asobi seksu???


I put on Loveless for ther first time in years yesterday

and the first thing I thought was: wow, Silversun Pickups.


that means you are deft!

silversun pickups don't sound anything similar to loveless.


riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

there are two thinga MBV and MV have in common and that is the letters M and V

end of


or not

My Vitriols sound has so much to owe to My Bloody Valentine that that statement is just ridiculous.

Speaking of My Vitriol does anyone know if there's any news of a new album yet?


Apparently it's finished

I got to talk to Som Wardner at Download last year and that was supposed to be the start of the comeback trail, they were going to go on tour after the festival, I assume to try and generate the interest in the new album but that's obviously just not happened. The new stuff they played was good, maybe it'll grow, but kind of paled next to the Finelines stuff. There's new tracks up on MySpace.


see also

Radio Dept. 'Lesser Matters'
http://www.myspace.com/officialradiodept


^ one of my favourite albums

Pet Grief was a bit too glossed, in comparison


Amusement

Parks on Fire, anyone?


autolux

are sick

i think they were on such a long break cos the drummer broker her arms or something and had to have pins put in it? sounded pretty bad


oh rly?

oooouch.


that was before the release of Future Perfect I thought

I know she had them for a live review I wrote in 2005...

http://drownedinsound.com/event/view/1234


Yeah

I interviewed them in 05 and it happened prior to the release of Future Perfect. It put them out of action for over a year. I think they're just taking their time with the new record.


Hmmm

I'm not sure about many of these.

I don't think there's a hint of MBV in Silversun Pickups' music; I think they're doing a passable Smashing Punpkins impression at best. Which makes them.. well, it pretty much makes them Our Lady peace, doesn't it? Burn.

M83: increasingly less so. Saturdays = Youth seems to have gone down the French electropop route. But the earlier albums: definately.

With Autolux, again, I think it's too great a compliment. They're loveable in small doses, but they're just too plodding: live and on record.

Deerhunter and APTBS are more reasonable, especially the latter. How about Asobi Seksu?


HAWKER!HAWKER!

due to having shite friends i have 2 tickets to their Sunday night Roundhouse gig. PM me if you would like them (£25 each is what i paid for them).


Totally diagree

All these bands are one dimmenional shit.


and i hear MBV

in Blonde Redhead.

Also, Von by Sigur Ros is one long MBV tribute, and which, for some reason only happens to contain 3 decent songs.


Aye, good 'un

although they don't sound all that alike, there's something like a.. similar feeling between them.


I thought that

A Sunny Day In Glasgow would get a mention.
BTW, the Autolux delay has been due to the Carla (Drums) falling off-stage in a horrific accident that nearly cost her not only her drumming ability, but complete use of her arm. I think she now has 10 titanium screws instead of an elbow (or something along those lines). So, thatexplains some of the delay with the new album. The remiander was due to them leaving Epic/DMZ in a pretty long-winded fashion.


^ give this man a biscuit ^

failing that, a ^5.


Red Blondehead

I hear way more Sonic Youth in early Blonde Redhead. The last couple have shed that though.


Fleeting Joys

Pretty much a carbon-copy of Loveless-era MBV. Whether this is a good thing is a matter of opinion, but i think they do a good impression.

www.myspace.com/fleetingjoys


^

true


What about Joy Zipper?

didn't kevin shields produce their album?


Yes, that's correct

I'd definitely include them too.


Surely the 3 obvious ones are

Mogwai
Sigur Ros
Blonde Redhead

Or is it just me???


sigur ros?!


Silversun Pickups?????

If they're shoegaze or even remotely influenced by shoegaze then I'm a Martian.
Air Formation, The Twilight Sad, The Black Angels, Airiel, even Glasvegas would all have been more appropriate.


aye

its all subjective though aint it.

how about artists like Cosmicdust, Guitar, Guitaro, Southpacific, The Voices, Heaviness and so on.

So so many acts out there extending the sound that MBV put out there all those years ago.


Yup Kevin Sheilds did produce...

... most of the tracks on the Joy Zipper album American Whip, but stay well clear of the rest of their output. They're just piss weak without that production


shhhhh

Its only the last album that was sub-par and it wasn't the production that was to blame but the songwriting.

Anyway the best song on American Whip was produced by David Holmes.


^

also true


Amusement Parks On Fire

this is the only sort of article they are likely to be mentioned in nowadays.


In the Presence of Nothing

by Lilys is the only record that really replicates the approach of MBV without resorting to pastiche.


i love all of the above

except deerhunter


I'd say Autodrone have a good claim.

www.myspace.com/autodrone

The album Strike A Match is excellent.

On more of the JAMC/MBV overlap, I'd also posit The Vandelles.


I would say that Silversun Pickups are more indebted to

Smashing Pumpkins than MBV.

I've been listening to Film School recently, who are definitley influenced by MBV.


/\

now that is a BAND


How Amusement Parks On Fire

haven't been mentioned astounds me. Surely they're the band most reminiscent of Loveless era MBV?


lots of bands copied MBV

mogwai most obviously
sigur ros for the quieter bits

others from slowdive, ride and chapterhouse on for the swirly guitars and detuned (!) voices low in ther mix
but
alas
they all sucked
cos
it is just a bit more complicated than that.
Mr Shields IS a geniyuss (props also obv to colm, deb and bilinda) and he clearly feels the music and bends it the way he knows it must go and from only shallow to soon to you made me realise, that is in some very different directions, and he was striving for a particular target each time.
all the copyists' targets were to make it sound as good as MBV;
so they failed.

word


ermm

i mentioned them


When reviews compare band with MBV= I buy 'em!

which means I have a lot of shoegazey records... and if I had to narrow the current crop into 5 I doubt I could have done better. Kudos Mike.

BTW, yeah, the Brits totally dominated in the 90s and now the Americans totally dominate the shoegaze scene. It seems like shoegaze OUGHT to be Brit dominated, so all the more embarrassing for ya's, tbh.

Seeing MBV live again is gonna be great, but they canna reclaim their throne until we get new material.


Serena Maneesh

should be up there. Their debut was fantastic, although if we are going on live shows im yet to make up my mind. Last time i saw them the frontman came back on for an encore which consisted of twenty minutes of reverb while he lay on the floor... but maybe thats the shoegaze 'thing'.


^ finally someone that mentioned them!

i will add asobi seksu
and a sunny day in glasgow


Autolux

Were great at the Portishead ATP but I was really dissapointed with their first album.


A Place To Bury Strangers

are ear-piercingly loud but a bit boring live. And they look like super wangs in that photo.


Nu-gaze worth mentioning

Kyte
93 million miles from the sun
thoughtforms
the fauns

but the Fleeting Joys actually do that whole seasick guitar/ tv on the blink gorgeousness FTW


Kyte are right good.

Playing next DiScover, July 12, Notting Hill Arts Club.


And who's going BEYOND Loveless??

All of the bands above just sound like cheap imitations...

What about these up and comers (thank god for myspace)

Bombaster (myspace.com/Bombaster)
Astral Travel (myspace.com/AstralTravel)
Foxtail Somersault (myspace.com/Foxtailsomersault)
Panda Bear (well....)

these are bands that probably just dont have enough $$$ to pay dis to review their records....but check these guys out, its worth it.


Bafflement

Silversun Pickups do not sound like MBV, they sound like Smashing Pumpkins.

Sigur Ros have never and will never sound like MBV.

My Vitriol are a pleasing hangover from grunge and not a bit like MBV.

Blonde Redhead do not sound like MBV.

Does anyone REALLY think Mogwai take influence from MBV?

Do you people listen to these records?

Just accept that MBV are truly and gloriously unique, and that there is a huge difference between being influenced by and sounding like.

Oh yeah, MBV were sensational tonight at the ICA. I almost don't want my ears to stop ringing.

Lots of love, Joe Bananas.


I don't totally agree with that

MBV weren't totally unique, their first few releases sound just like the tripe that everyone else was doing at the time. Loveless became unique because it was a well fluked album the same as Slint's Spiderland, it is a rare case of all the right things falling into place for a brief moment in time.

There is a reason they split and why Primal Scream was so completely different (and he says dodging the stone throwers) and essential total shit bar 1 or two singles at a really heavy push.

You could easily say any band that has put a guitar through more than one delay pedal at any time sounds like MBV but Jefferson Airplane did stuff like that decades before and The Beatles before them, and I fucking hate the Beatles


Further Explained Bafflement

The point is more to do with doing your own thing in your own time. Music will only ever have a set amount of boundaries and possibilities - MBV pushed these within their own time. The afore and since mentioned bands did not.

Originality is only relevant to those who first to experience it...


ha until I put my glasses on..

I thought you had written Muse will only ever have a set amount of boundaries.

Lets not start talking about that talentless fuckwit. Just like Satch and Vai Bellamy is a one trick pony.

"ooh how can I play this arpeggio this week guys??"

cock


one word for you..

.. DROP NINETEENS.

check out their album 'Delaware'.

fucking beautiful.
it's a 1991 classic.


depreciation guild

i wouldn't say they sound like MBV, jr. or anything, but if you like shoegaze, i recommend checking out this band.





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