"Napkin Niceties
The napkin should go on your lap once everyone has been seated. If it is a large napkin, fold it in half. If you leave the table briefly mid-meal, the napkin is placed on your chair. At the end of the meal, put your napkin to the left of your plate."
http://www.4hoteliers.com/4hots_fshw.php?mwi=494
But also, very wrong:
http://rjharrison.co.uk/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=43
What the hell would they know?
They're only professional bakers.
I usually put the napkin on my head,
make sure everyone on the table has seen and acknowledged it, then put it in my pocket and smell it when I get home.
Yeah, sure, in ALBANIA or something
a good note for the future
but someone ate the food off my friend's plate that was destined for the bin so 'napkin niceties' weren't forefront on anyone's mind at the time. and i eat bread from the freezer.
Well breadmakers/sellers WOULD tell you that
They don't care about people being stupid if it's getting them more money...
Your worldview is inspiring
Things I like/believe in
Stupid people/things
There doesn't seem to be any middle-ground. I'm in awe of you.
But there rarely is a middle ground
9 times out of 10, something is right or wrong, true or false, stupid or not stupid.
Isn't that "statistic" a little bit ironic?
No
C'mon, not even a little bit?
She's right. Rain on your wedding day is ironic.
Keep up.
Right now
all I need is a knife
you are probably the most strangely opinionated person i know of
are you actually weird or is it just an internet thing?
Well, I talk less away from the internet
The thought process works the same though.
Logic, sense, manners etc, which seemingly now counts as 'strange'. Which is kind of sad really.
Your arguments are far from logical
take that from a man who's studied logic.
There's nothing to study about logic
It's intrinsically logical. Studying it would be logical. And then it wouldn't make sense and I'd get confused.
You can study how it works
and what are the attributes of a logical argument/discussion.
It's a good skill for identifying bullshitters/irrational people.
There's only one attribute
Logic.
And if you can't study that then you're back to making no sense at all.
What a silly thing to say
Maybe you should read something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logic-Wilfrid-Hodges/dp/0141003146/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212666488&sr=8-2
http://tinyurl.com/6bgb3l
Also: how would define logic (without using the word 'logic')?
I don't care
If what I'm saying is 'wrong', there's no point in logic even existing, and whatever I have gets to the right results, which makes it superior, I think.
What are the right results?
The ones I get
You are probably the most irrational person I've ever experienced
you have the reasoning skills of an ape.
To be fair, if you were saying otherwise
that would make you rational, therefore me irrational. So you basically just proved that I'm rational and therefore you are not.
but he hasn't
thats just your opinion, whicch is wrong, im afraid
but that's just your opinion
pocketmouse is being logical apparently, so that means she is never wrong!
born again christian much?
Then tell me your reasoning
why your choices are the 'right' ones.
Why would I spend my time trying to rationalise
with irrational people?
Do you have any friends that aren't animated?
I'm guessing not.
I think my sister likes me
And she's basically the only other non-stupid person I know. So it would make sense that she does.
Were you both involved in a childhood trauma?
:D
So, so much!
Also
you should probably tell all the philosphers who are currently studying that, they'd be interested to know that they're working on nothing.
I'm sure they're already aware of that
And if not, they're probably not capable of doing anything worthwhile or productive anyhow.
but logically speaking, nothing cannot exist!
Is it surprising that I can relate to PocketMouses logic?
Yep, I'm admitting it, I don't make sense half the time.
No, you can't relate to my logic
I'm not stupid.
You'd have to be also not stupid to relate to my logic.
GOLD
^ :D
It was a joke..
..you do make sense but other people on here don't see it that way. Which is similar to me, see that other thread about you, I defended you didn't I.
Well then stop it
You're making everything I say become void, and it's annoying.
How does this make any sense?
EXACTLY
I'm not sure if you said that to make me feel better, but THANK GOD anyhow.
Hey wait, you're trying not to make sense?
But I understand some of your not making sense. If I'm wrong then maybe I don't. Or maybe It's me that's not making any sense. ;)
you two are perfect for each
other
Are you trying to make them breed?
I'm pitching the idea
to Channel Five this afternoon
They'll probably take you up on that.
Although I'm a little sceptical, how much will I get paid?
not a penny
Done
you never had a choice
I was scared, confused and alone.
Will you look after me?
I hate you
I don't hate people much at all. I pity them often. Rarely hate them.
But I hate you.
I love you
ying and yang baby*
*that's what we can call our kids
Last sentence
BINGO
:-(
It's often less the beliefs/logic
and more than the black/white view of a lot of issues. There seems to be very little grey in PocketMouse's world, which I find quite amazing.
Credit for holding and sticking to her beliefs though.
Which is exactly the point I'm trying to make.
I can be very black and white about things I believe in.
Like I said, there's very little grey area in reality
Things are nearly always one thing or the other.
yes, but
we can rarely tell which they are, because all our perceptions are subjective.
No they're not
Well, mine certainly aren't. And other people's probably aren't as such, but because they're irrational anyhow, it doesn't mean the same thing really.
yes they are.
you just don't realise that they are. the way you see the world is governed by past experience, hell, even genetics.
Do you understand that the word 'irrational' has a meaning
that's not "people who think differently from me".
Or are you now going to argue that words mean whatever you want them to mean because you're right?
It has a meaning
that meaning fits in perfectly with "people who think differently to me" on nearly every occasion.
good lord.
this is dreadful
No, this is sad :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/kaka_is_dead
sure....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/wow_original_AND_clever
hmmm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/zing!
manners that include calling people stupid?
logic that includes no reasoning?
sense that has no basic logic?
you make great points
:D I'm really enjoying this
<3
Swoon
Everyone has limits
Plus, they know they're being stupid. They do it intentionally a lot of the time. Which is something only stupid people would do I suppose, but the point still stands.
And like I said, my thought process, logic or no logic, arrives at the right conclusions, so how I get there becomes irrelevant, surely?
but the right conclusions are only right to you
hence they are meerly your opinions, and anyone who cannot accept that their opinion isn't always correct, is being completely self rightious. and all that that leads to is a failure to be able to learn from other people's research, be it direct life experience or factual learning.
That doesn't make sense
Why would I believe something I think may or may not be right? There'd be no point in thinking it at all if that were the case.
then why do you STILL believe that you can't freeze bread, for example
either, you have a superiority complex, or are completely unable to learn from other people.
also if there is no point in thinking things that may or may not be right, then how can you ever hypothasise? surely that's an important tool in deciding your opinions on things?
also on the same point, if you cannot think things which may or may not be right, what exactly do you think about?
I'm not talking about bread
There's no point. I've said why and I'm not going over it all again. There's no point. Needless to say, my points are valid. People here only disagree with what I say because they want to annoy me.
Because I know. I know what's stupid. I know what isn't stupid. It's a pretty useful skill.
"People here only disagree with what I say because they want to annoy me."
ACTUAL GOLD!!
ACTUAL GOLD!
no. really, we don't.
we disagree with you because you are nuts. you can freeze bread. you can freeze soup. it really doesn't matter in the slightest if a person puts their napkin on the plate.
Stop trying to annoy her, stupid
but it's stupid to believe something that can be disproven
such as the rather frequently given example of freezing bread.
all points are valid, until a counter example is discovered, or they are disproved. in which case, points need to be reassessed. it seems to me, that you are unable to reassess things properly.
It can't be 'disproven' at all
The argument people give is "I do it and I'm alive" and "It looks like normal bread" and "It tastes the same"
a) They probably don't. They say they do to wind me up.
b) Just because you're alive doesn't mean it isn't having a harmful effect on your body.
c) Just because something looks the same doesn't mean it is the same. Most harmful things aren't visible at all.
d) They've probably warped all their tastebuds by continuously eating frozen/out of date foods.
See, I can easily disprove everything they say.
YOU ARE ACTUALLY MENTALLY DEFICIENT.
i'm sorry. thats it. simple as.
But, you see, I take things people say
and reverse them, and then it gets the right answer. So with rationality/irrationality taken in to account, the only thing that can be drawn from you saying that is that I am not mentally deficient, and other people are. Or something like that.
That's called denial
are you willing to dispute that?
Not at all
Because other people are irrational, the things they say are inherently nonsensical.
but they arent
its a SCIENTIFIC FACT that frozen and defrosted bread is safe to consume.
you think that you, a yougn girl are right and a million highly intelligent scientists are wrong?
It's not
And EVEN IF it isn't harmful (which it is) it doesn't change the fact that you're completely changing it. You're making it go solid. And bread shouldn't be all solid. It's just strange. If it's past it's date it's past it's date. And putting it in with ice isn't going to change that. You just don't freeze bread. You can eat it, you can heat it, you can't freeze it.
but freezing it, is preserving it's state
by making it solid, you are preventing it from either decomposing, or allowing any carbon based organisms from developing in it. your opinion is wrong based on scientific fact, FACE IT!
It's not preserving it's CHANGING
Bread not in the freezer is entirely different to bread in the freezer. It's changing. It doesn't magically become the same as if nothing had happened when you defrost it. Sighhhhh
i know, i said as much earlier
but all it does is dramatically slow down the aging process, as with any other item of food that you freeze. have you ever had a frozen pizza?