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Is something 'art' just because it's in a gallery? And what constitutes a gallery anyway?

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by ClicheGuevara

ClicheGuevara | 13 May '08, 14:59 | Send note | Report this | Reply

SHUT UP!

I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU SO MUCH!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!


Oh dear,

I don't know what came over me there. In answer to your question:

a gallery is a room full of art.

And yes.


^ I WAS UST ABOUT TO TYPE SOMTHING LIKE THIS

PLEASE SHUT UP

(and write another guide to dressing)


^

art


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gallery


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art


.

anything you say is art is art.

any space you call a gallery is a gallery.

end of discussion.


very true...

if somewhat pretentious.


It's not.

To be pretentious you have to be clever.


your semantic grasp

is WRONG


the second part...

"any space you call a gallery is a gallery."

I can just imagine some flouncy art student tit telling me that and that public toilets make beautiful galleries and blah blah blah tarquin blah cuthbert blah renaissance blah blah post modern blah.

like i said though, it's quite right. i wasn't having a go.


the bar i wa sin last night

had a mini-exhibtion of some art in the toilets


there has been some really interesting art

that has used public toilets though! most notably, a toilet which was a box with a two way mirror in the middle of the street, so you could see out, but no one could see in!


quite the opposite

i feel that that definition prevents art from having to fulfill certain cultural codes which make it intrinsically superior. It actually opens up art to anyone who wants to be an artist, rather than closing it down into hyper/pseudo-intellectual bollocks (like what this post is).


^That

to the letter


Depends on the justifications behind it.

Art is really just a visual expression of a certain subject anyway. Thats what i think anyway.


gallery ctrl v

–noun, plural -ler·ies. 1. a raised area, often having a stepped or sloping floor, in a theater, church, or other public building to accommodate spectators, exhibits, etc.
2. the uppermost of such areas in a theater, usually containing the cheapest seats.
3. the occupants of such an area in a theater.
4. the general public, esp. when regarded as having popular or uncultivated tastes.
5. any group of spectators or observers, as at a golf match, a Congressional session, etc.
6. a room, series of rooms, or building devoted to the exhibition and often the sale of works of art.
7. a long covered area, narrow and open at one or both sides, used esp. as a walk or corridor.
8. Chiefly South Atlantic States. a long porch or portico; veranda.
9. a long, relatively narrow room, esp. one for public use.
10. a corridor, esp. one having architectural importance through its scale or decorative treatment.
11. a raised, balconylike platform or passageway running along the exterior wall of a building inside or outside.
12. a large room or building used for photography, target practice, or other special purposes: a shooting gallery.
13. a collection of art for exhibition.
14. Theater. a narrow, raised platform located beyond the acting area, used by stagehands or technicians to stand on when working.
15. Nautical. a projecting balcony or structure on the quarter or stern of a vessel.
16. Furniture. an ornamental railing or cresting surrounding the top of a table, stand, desk, etc.
17. Mining. a level or drift.
18. a small tunnel in a dam, mine, or rock, for various purposes, as inspection or drainage.
19. a passageway made by an animal.
20. Fortification Obsolete. an underground or covered passage to another part of a fortified position.


Oh for fuck's sake

Serious Answer: The Institutional Theory of art is absolute cobblers. Theories about "what is art" tend to imply that art is somehow intrinsically good, or "high", compared to lower things which are materially identical - this was the point of Warhol's Brillo boxes. Art doesn't have to be good. It can be utter shit. And anything and everything is art that a human hand has had its way with, in my view.

Less Serious Answer: Quiet, you. Stop trying to rile people.


My housemate

insists on creating art in the disabled toilets before he has a lecture. He is so bloody artistic, often creating up to two or three arts a day.


art is whatever

idiots will congregate towards and go 'ooh'


^has no soul^

:)


^ Has no job.

ZING!


- has no upwards arrow key

so can't make the obvious 'has no friends' joke.

(where the fuck is that key?)


6


safe

as fuck. ta.


hey, I make teh art

I know what I'm talking about


well

someone who has attempted to make it, or made it knows how fucking long it takes, and when someone has done a splash of red in the centre of a canvas with total preparation time 04 seconds and people with a collected IQ level of 79 gather around it and discuss what it 'means'...that's art. The idiots watching it are the art. The same way the audience is the performance, or at least a large pat of it. Otherwise it would just be people in a room.


so.. it is art?


what is?

it isn't really, I was being sarcastic. Anything can be art if you like, it's just creative expression. Art fans are terrible things though.


art fans sort of embody the worst part

of human feeling which is : making a big deal out of nothing, pettiness. They are usually so petty as to find communication with actual artists distressing


Is that what you classify

yourself as in the lonely hearts section?


Funnily enough,

in my mind this thread was partly inspired by HV.


No.


Porky McLieFibs


He bloody is isn't he?!

Nothing wrong with showing the sign of good times.


No!!!

You look ENTIRELY SVELTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFLa0-Nzoo

I'll have you know!


Art is any piece of creative work done/created/whatever in earnest.

NOTE : That definition doesn't distinguish between good art and bad art.

NOTE 2 : Now can't you PLEASE go find a nice secluded spot and wank yourself into a coma or something?


If you read up on the Dada movement in the 20s

Duchamp explores this idea with his piece called 'The FOuntain'
which was pretty much a urinal, but he took it out of a toilet and put it into a Gallery which then made it into art - obviously he was making fun of the whole idea that just because it's in a gallery it doesn'y mean it's art.


hmm

but it still is isnt it


oh indeed

Sorry I missed your emphasis really...Its actually on at the Tate as part of the Duchamp/Man Ray/Picabia exhibition at the moment. The chin-stroking going on meant that the ironing was particularly delicious :)


that's why they called

him the water carrier then.


The question shouldn't be about what's art and not

more about what's good art and not.


Art is gay


My DINNER

Is a gallery. All the bits of steak in the pie are the art. The pastry is the curator.

The end result is the shit...and that is the true art.