Uh oh! Iggy's gone and said a naughty word.
Interviewed as part of the BBC's Glastonbury coverage, Pop was coming towards the end of a rambling anecdote about Camden town when he chose to employ the phrase "Paki shop".
Not too tactful there, Osterberg.
The comment, which was broadcast live on Saturday (23 Jun), drew the fairly meagre tally of three complaints. His comment, though, brought no reproach from programme hosts Jo Whiley and Mark Radcliffe at the time.
The BBC have since apologised, saying: "We would like to apologise if anyone was offended."
DiScuss: What's the most offensive word you can think of?
DiScuss #2: Racism? Boo, obviously. But do any of you lot think there's sincere racist sentiment behind the comment?
Meanwhile, here's Iggy's good side. Viddy!
*$#%
is by far the worst word.
It's
like when Richard Madeley said the word 'dyke' to a lesbian, thinking it was cool, or something.
The naughtiest word I can think of? I quite like cuntslime, it's a good'un.
Excuse me.
I happen to work in a cuntslime factory, and I am HIGHLY offended by that comment.
^
i've been known to do that. only if i've ehard them use it first though.
but, not being one, is it still wrong?
^ LOL at Richard Madeley!
He's down widdem gays.
"Package store," maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_store
IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE
Except in this case. Actually, it's always an excuse. I hate people who say "Ignorance is not an excuse". Of course it is. It's the ultimate excuse. Apart from being hypnotised, obviously.
You're thinking of
IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO DEFENCE.
No I'm not
it
is a defence if the law is stupid.
also if you think not having encyclopedic knowledge of the law is reasonable
how can
you know the law is stupid if you're ignorant of it?
good
point.
I suppose to believe the law was stupid you would have to first be conscious of it, and the defence would not be ignorance but not believing the particular law should exist.
"their's"
bad grammar<good racism.
And doesn't 'program' end in 'me' as well?
Hmmm.
I hear your hmming middle England
it was deafening.
um
theirs shouldn't have an apostrophe.
It's just his generation
My gran still thinks that everyone not white is guilty until proven innocent.
Bless the daft old duffers.
Surely thats no excuse either??
I'm not being entirely serious...
I did realise that, but some people DO use that as an excuse
i.e. defending Bernard Manning
Well...
... he can't really defend himself now, can he?
How about
the line that was used to defend Bernard Manning the other week. "he was a man of his age, and for a man of his age he was relatively unracist". I would have thought better of Mr Pop. I guess he could have picked up on it from an idiot in his crew or whatever, is it a term you would use in the US?
the thing is
that the word in question only has racist connotations over here.
bush once referred to the entire pakistani nation as "the pakis", and if he said it then it must be socialy acceptable.
HAHHA
MUST be!
bush was talking about pakistanis
not "brown people". it's still a pretty stupid idea in the uk to refer to pakistanis as "pakis" unless the distinction is very very clear but it's not necessarily racist
Well,
I can firmly state that I was devastated when I heard Mr Pop say this word. My mother rushed to cover my ears, and, as we wept in terror, there was a great dash to turn the radio off.
I don't think I'll ever recover from this ordeal. I believe Mr Pop should be banished from the world.
You aren't Pakistani though
Mine is
"Sticky melon cunt".
Mat MBA's would be "twunt".
I doubt he was being racist.
Probably just didn't realise it wasn't an acceptable word over here.
Example: in Australia the word "wog" means something totally different and isn't considered particularly offensive (or so I've been told by an Aussie friend, who was of Maltese descent and, therefore, a "wog").
no offence
but again, bit slow on the uptake dis news team...same with the fopp and hmv thing, both bits of news are 3 days old.
NO OFFENC
.
NO OFFENC
NO FANX
Crablin
wouldn't have stood for slacking like this
oh you did
you went there
I'm sorry?
Didn't quite catch that.
Get a job
I'm more shocked
By the photo at the top of this article.
it is like the Tollund Man.
By 'viddy'
do you mean 'vide' imperative of videre to look/see...?
Thats what i thought people meant by that anyway...
Anyway im sure i saw the interview and actually did not notice...
Cracker..?
is a word used for "white people" correct? well. if you were white, being called a "cracker" all the time might get old. but even more so if every time you were called a "cracker" you were spit on, or not allowed into a certain place, or called on to be beat/abused in some way. you would learn that the word "cracker" was not a good word at all. it was in fact one of the worst words someone could call you. so every time you heard that word you would get angry because something bad would always happen.
about the culture thing and maybe it not being offensive, he probably should have checked with his agent before saying certain things, just like most publicly speaking people do. anyone could have told him that that was not the "classy" thing to say.
someone
posted the link for this further up ^
but... this...
"In some parts of the US, a liquor store is called a package store or "packie" for short."
(not excusing him, obv. i don't know what the context of the sentence was). Just a possible explanation.
firstly, this news is about 3 days too late
secondly, i'm sure Iggy meant no offense to anyone and probably isn't aware of the connotations of the word in England (if he was indeed saying "Paki")
thirdly, even if he was trying to piss of the moral majority he's still about 1/20th of the badass he was 35 years ago
For anyone who hasn't clicked on that link above, PLEASE READ THIS:
"In some parts of the US... a liquor store is called a package store or "packie" for short."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_store
Now shuddup.
don't you tell me to shuddup
bitch
Don't you call me a bitch
you BUMHEAD.
that hurts
[saaaaaaadface]
3 complaints,
and the BBC apologises?
if
3 people complain about strictly come dancing do you think they will apologise for it?
gimme a break
most non-brits don't even know this is an insult - like my italian mates
so that makes it alright does it?
ok then, please, say it as much as you like, dont let us stop you.
(not referring to iggy btw)
flaps and gash
... are my two favourite swearwords at the moment.
"packie"...
...just reiterating the point above that there is a different american sense, first came to my notice in the Hold Steady lyric #working backwards from the doctor to the drugs. from the packie to the taxi to the cabbie to the club#. makes a lot more sense that Jo Whiley and Mark Radcliffe (Whiley in particular) misunderstood than Iggy Pop was being racist
I'm loving
... how everyone's most offensive words are slang for lady parts. Exactly who gives a shit what Iggy Pop says these days? I mean, seriously.
adc
thats because male bits are old hat in the swear word stakes. its the only frontier left.
i still like the term "cock" not because its that offensive, but because when pronounced correctly it has a nice offensive snap to it.
flaps isnt a swear word, gets used in the bedroom all the time round our way.
very useful swearwords indeed
'cludge' is another favourite.
erm...
cuntymint.
I think...
Cunty Cunty Pissflaps is a great little phrase to utter during job interviews or when meeting/greeting Royalty/The polic.
kind of related
My friends nick name is Patty (Patti or Pati, depending on who spells it) but after introducing himself to some Italians apparently it means cunt or something in Italian...
Fuck-knuckle!
That's my favourite.
To put this into context...
... Mark Radcliffe remarked that the last time he met Iggy, he was wearing see-through trousers. Iggy then went into an anecdote about how he went into a 'paki shop' in Camden to purchase the aforementioned trousers (can't remember the full anecdote, but there was some reference to his genitals in there).