Last night, Conor McNicolas, New Musical Express editor at London's Grosvenor House Hotel, picked up the award for editor of the year at the Periodical Publishers Association Editorial and Publishing Excellence Awards.
The judges said Conor beat off competition from people from Nuts and other such mags, because of his success in "overhauling a 51 year-old title to make it relevant to a new generation of music lovers.... The editor is so much a part of the product - he is on every page. His enthusiasm, knowledge, speed of reaction and drive have given an established title new life. Thanks to his innovations, NME is now thriving in a tough market and delivering week in, week out."
Is it? DiS certainly, intentionally, doesn't run like that, with writers given the freedom to be passionate and knowledgeable and creative about the music they love. This is a distinction which we don't always make clear. So now we have, just here.
Mister McNicolas has commented, "I'm flabbergasted but tremendously pleased. This really is a victory for the whole team around NME. The judges mentioned NME's speed of response and that's something you can only achieve by everyone working together."
So, take a deep breath, you ranty brethren, and think for a second. What you comment below may very well be read and taken seriously by those bods at IPC.
Photo 'borrowed' from NME.com
DiScuss: If you were the Editor of a music magazine aimed at a mass market bunch of 17 year olds, what would you actually be doing? Hasn't the NME improved a little of late? Ain't he damned if he does and damned if he don't? Isn't what's worse about all of this, that the NME's party line resonates so strongly within TV, radio and lots of parts of the music industry ranging from A&R through store managers for HMV, etc... that it turns into hype that's so strong it's hard for people to see through? Wouldn't it be nice to give them some intelligent and sensible suggestions? Is DiS playing Devils Advocate?
NME editor wins an award?!
This recent award won't attract any new readers, mearly set off a rant-rage.
Oh, and he's an ugly cunt too.
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Thank fuck for websites like DiS. Keep up the good work :-)
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the thing people forget is that the NME IS a mainstream magazine. when it says things like 'new music' (in the same vein as MTV2) it means music breaking into the mainstream.
i was also told by a former NME writer that they are basically told what to put, in relation to record label payoffs. i dunno if i believe her to the extent that she said, but i guess that would prove the popularity of some bands over infinitely better ones similar to them
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I'm sure neither party would be willing to admit to that now.
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Tada!
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it's been like smash hits ever since and just keeps getting worse.... I HATE NME SOOOOO MUCH THESE DAYS!
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Unfortunately, NME isn't good. It's just embarrassing. The writing has gone down the pan.
If there was anything else, I'd read that instead but there isn't so I'm still one of the people that actually buys it. The only difference is that my flatmate and I take it in turns rather buying our own copy...
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In terms of printed magazines, try plan b, artrocker, comeswithasmile and loose lips sink ships.
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the nme is frustrating because there is SO much exciting new stuff around right now, and they could be writing fervently and creatively about it all, and really making the most of it. but they aren't. even when they're spot on with the bands they document, their coverage is banal, depressing and repetitive; and more time is given to gossip and scenesters' photo opportunities than actual music writing. i'm not suggesting 4-page reviews of a gig; that isn't what the nme has ever been about as long as i've been reading it, at least. just... reviews that SAY something, interviews that tell us something new, features that aren't patronising. writing that reads like the writers enjoyed writing it.
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I actually bought the NME for the first time in about two years yesterday, the one with the Killers on the front (although, God's honest truth, I didn't know who they were til I read the name).
I really struggled to find anything worthwhile, at all, within its shiny front n back pages. Short of a tiny mention of the Mike Patton/Bjork track for Warchild (which they pretty much dissed) and some mildly amusing letters about the whole Kasabian bottling incident, t'was utter cock. It really IS Heat Magazine, albeit for folk who also like a little pop'n'rock.
Crrrrrrrrrap.
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noone with any musical knowledge/taste would work for it these days and be able to live with themselves.
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GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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"hahaha... yaaaaaa...
GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!"
So you sold your soul to the man, and now you want pity? That's rich. Why don't you just go and invade some celebraties private life, and leave the existential crisies to those who still have hearts.
;-) Joking!
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Not only is NME crap content-wise, but Conor McNicolas is a shit journalist.
I am so disappointed by this I can't even put it into words.
NME is a national institution but I fear we're on the brink of losing it forever.
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As for Mr. McNicholas, i'm sure he's a decent bloke at heart, but i just get the feeling he takes things a little too seriously - this award though was quite clearly either a fix, or some cruel joke (although, there is always the possiblity he missed the host say "and now in reverse order...")
and no, NME is not getting better of recent, our immunity is just fading. Nurse! pass the liqour!
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I'm pretty sure NME didn't buy them out Melody Maker but Melody Maker collapsed of it's own accord and then some of the journalists and sections were put into the NME.
Obviously this was still fucking annoying 'cos Melody Maker was way better but I don't think it was actually NME's fault it collapsed, so much as the dearth of alternative music that sold any records at the time.
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Melody Maker was really faltering and its target audience was pretty much the same as NME, so IPC did (from their point of view) the sensible thing and merged the two.
For a while they made out that MM was "incorporated" in NME, but these days...
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im glad DiS still has its feet on the ground
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The only use i see for the NME is PR. If you manage to get a feature or even just a couple of column inches in the NME, you can guarantee a much larger number of sales of any record attached to the band. For small labels this is great, but very hard to achieve.
NME writes about bands who are generally signed to a major, or are just on the verge of it. Give me private eye any day. No music, just lots of good journalism
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"most music journalism is an offence to the eye, an offence to the heart and an offence to the soul"
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PS Juliette and the Licks make me feel a little testy...not like Michael Jackson feels a little testie, but testy. How many wanna be actresses are gonna put out bad records? The next thing you know Paris Hilton will be doing it....oops!
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*ahem*
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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Prior to that they had to be on top of their game otherwise the competition would have got there first.
After they swallowed up MM, all the NME has proved is that they are excellent at marketing but not so great at sales, as the lack of units attributed to the Strokes and the Vines has proved.
I have to say though, that I still read the NME on a regular basis, even if its to gloat when they start going on about "new" bands that I actually saw and wrote about them 9 months previous.
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Prior to that they had to be on top of their game otherwise the competition would have got there first.
After they swallowed up MM, all the NME has proved is that they are excellent at marketing but not so great at sales, as the lack of units attributed to the Strokes and the Vines has proved.
I have to say though, that I still read the NME on a regular basis, even if its to gloat when they start going on about "new" bands that I actually saw and wrote about them 9 months previous.
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more DiS NME bashing.
to be honest it's common knowledge that the NME is currently in a rut in terms of extensively covering interesting,let alone groundbreaking, music.
However, there is still plenty to relish in the NME. For example, this week's 'radar' section features Dungen -a pretty ace Swedish band who, without the aid of the NME, i would know nothing about.
Sure, there's plenty of trash. it's a given. but i'm sure most people would choose the NME's rampant overhyping of bands than, say, Pitchfork's lamentably negative attitude towards the vast majority of music on offer.
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But in its defence, for all its laughable hyperbole at least some of the writers are still often be readable and amusing, and as nevertrustaneskimo just pointed out, it does still get it right sometimes. Comparisons to mags like Smash Hits are easy to make but for a magazine with such a mainstream appeal you have to admit it has at least a bit of verve.
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Whilst in an ideal world, everybody would check out bands they've never heard of and look out new music, the truth is that a lot of people arent' aware of what's going on in music until they read it in mainstream music publications and, whilst the NME has it's faults, they have pushed some very good bands towards mainstream consciousness. True, they've also pedalled some pretty boring crap but I think the hits make the missess worthwhile.
Ultimately, I want the bands I like to get noticed by wider audiences; firstly, because I want them to be able to keep making albums and secondly because if something's good I want everybody to get to hear it. Whatever the NME's faults, I'm glad there is an alternative music mag that kids growing up in suburban backwaters (as I did) can read and find out about new music. Hopefully, they won't take it all as gospel and will develop their own ideas but at least it gives them a chance to to start.
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certainly sounds like it.
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I know a lot of people hate the NME and totally understand why. A lot of the bands that the NME creams over are either over-hyped or just not very good but they've still created a platform from which some really good acts reach a wider audience and, as such, sell enough albums to not get dropped.
The NME could be a damn sight better but I think life'd be a lot of harder for alternative acts without either it or an equivalent magazine of a similar stature.
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All this waging war on the NME is tedious and pointless. If you don't like the magazine just ignore it and maybe it will go away. All these predictable tirades against it just perpetuate its dominance over UK music journalism.
And to all you people who gleefully kick the shit out of the NME on these boards as if it's some kind of evil indie tyrant - I'm suspicious of you all. Your desperate need to prove you're above such things shows you've missed the point entirely. If you really, genuinely think the NME is that bad then you're either blindly following a popular point of view without bothering to work it out for yourselves, or just so far up your own indie-ethos arses your Hoxton Fins are tickling your tonsils.
You'd all take a job there if they offered you one and you know it.
Jesus, I can't believe I got myself involved in this.
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Or not, how about bashing the nme because the standard of the journalism is awful. made worse by the fact that a few years ago it was far better.
And as for taking a job there, sure after all isnt it easier to change something from within?
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You don't know how wrong this is. The NME have had trouble recruiting people lately, ok every 15 year old indie fame seeker would work for them, but any talented journalist would avoid them like the plague.
Did anyone read the article in the Guardian yesterday? Sarah Dempster was slagging off her days at the paper. Mind you, she did confess to liking Phil Collins, so we can't really take her seriously.
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It's depressed and suicidal Business men as well who are all going through midlife crisis' and want to be down with the kids.
There's a lot of suicidal Business men in the UK.
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what an absolute joke.
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